Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Penner » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:26 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Yeah, it's a real battlefield out there.

:roll:

We'd best just listen to the obvious fear mongers and give up all our rights.

For the children.

Never said about given up any rights and/or our guns but that you can be shot literally anywhere.
Take that bullshit somewhere else,
What Percentage Of Mass Shootings Happen In 'Gun Free Zones'? The Number Is Stunning.

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, "gun free zones" (areas where guns are prohibited) have been the target of more than 98% of all mass shootings. This staggering number is why such designated areas are often referred to as "soft targets," meaning unprotected and vulnerable.

"According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, only a little more than 1% of mass public shootings since 1950 have occurred in places that were not considered to be a gun-free zone," reports The Blaze. "In fact, as Crime Prevention Research Center President John Lott Jr. noted in October 2015, only two mass shootings in the U.S. since 1950 have occurred in an area where citizens were not prohibited from carrying a gun."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27440/wh ... stigiacomo
What bullshit? You are saying that I want to take your guns but I never said that.
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by clubgop » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:48 am

Penner wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:

Never said about given up any rights and/or our guns but that you can be shot literally anywhere.
Take that bullshit somewhere else,
What Percentage Of Mass Shootings Happen In 'Gun Free Zones'? The Number Is Stunning.

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, "gun free zones" (areas where guns are prohibited) have been the target of more than 98% of all mass shootings. This staggering number is why such designated areas are often referred to as "soft targets," meaning unprotected and vulnerable.

"According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, only a little more than 1% of mass public shootings since 1950 have occurred in places that were not considered to be a gun-free zone," reports The Blaze. "In fact, as Crime Prevention Research Center President John Lott Jr. noted in October 2015, only two mass shootings in the U.S. since 1950 have occurred in an area where citizens were not prohibited from carrying a gun."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27440/wh ... stigiacomo
What bullshit? You are saying that I want to take your guns but I never said that.
But you are. If 98% of these shootings are occurring in gun free zones the obvious answer is to punish the rest of society that isn't experiencing the problem. That is your solution at least be honest about it.

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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:54 am

Penner wrote:What bullshit? You are saying that I want to take your guns but I never said that.
This bullshit.
Penner wrote:When was the last time the government didn't come along and asked you to send your child to school? School is a better option than sending those younglings to work in the mines for 0.05-0.12 a day- right?
Translation, anyone who doesn't want their children warehoused in government mandated shooting galleries hates children and wants them to die in a mine cave in.
Penner wrote:In this country, you can go to a concert and be shot up by a sniper in a hotel room, or go to a movie theater and be shot up by a psycho, or go to a military base and be shot up by someone, you can go outside and practice baseball and someone might shot you, you can stand in front of a grocery store and someone might shot you, or go out to a nightcluband someone might shot at you, or go to a McDonald's resturantand someone might shot at you, or go to a post office and be shot at by someone, or go to an immigration center and be shot at, etc....
Translation, mass shootings happen in all places at all times, and there are no important details beyond that.
Penner wrote:Never said about given up any rights and/or our guns but that you can be shot literally anywhere.
Translation, nothing ever changes anywhere, at any time, no matter what, so my position can't be questioned because it's exactly the same as everything else.
What Percentage Of Mass Shootings Happen In 'Gun Free Zones'? The Number Is Stunning.

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, "gun free zones" (areas where guns are prohibited) have been the target of more than 98% of all mass shootings. This staggering number is why such designated areas are often referred to as "soft targets," meaning unprotected and vulnerable.

"According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, only a little more than 1% of mass public shootings since 1950 have occurred in places that were not considered to be a gun-free zone," reports The Blaze. "In fact, as Crime Prevention Research Center President John Lott Jr. noted in October 2015, only two mass shootings in the U.S. since 1950 have occurred in an area where citizens were not prohibited from carrying a gun."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27440/wh ... stigiacomo
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Penner » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:35 pm

clubgop wrote:
Penner wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:
Take that bullshit somewhere else,
What bullshit? You are saying that I want to take your guns but I never said that.
But you are. If 98% of these shootings are occurring in gun free zones the obvious answer is to punish the rest of society that isn't experiencing the problem. That is your solution at least be honest about it.
You're projecting if you think so.
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Penner » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:37 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Penner wrote:What bullshit? You are saying that I want to take your guns but I never said that.
This bullshit.
Penner wrote:When was the last time the government didn't come along and asked you to send your child to school? School is a better option than sending those younglings to work in the mines for 0.05-0.12 a day- right?
Translation, anyone who doesn't want their children warehoused in government mandated shooting galleries hates children and wants them to die in a mine cave in.
Penner wrote:In this country, you can go to a concert and be shot up by a sniper in a hotel room, or go to a movie theater and be shot up by a psycho, or go to a military base and be shot up by someone, you can go outside and practice baseball and someone might shot you, you can stand in front of a grocery store and someone might shot you, or go out to a nightcluband someone might shot at you, or go to a McDonald's resturantand someone might shot at you, or go to a post office and be shot at by someone, or go to an immigration center and be shot at, etc....
Translation, mass shootings happen in all places at all times, and there are no important details beyond that.
Penner wrote:Never said about given up any rights and/or our guns but that you can be shot literally anywhere.
Translation, nothing ever changes anywhere, at any time, no matter what, so my position can't be questioned because it's exactly the same as everything else.
What Percentage Of Mass Shootings Happen In 'Gun Free Zones'? The Number Is Stunning.

According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, "gun free zones" (areas where guns are prohibited) have been the target of more than 98% of all mass shootings. This staggering number is why such designated areas are often referred to as "soft targets," meaning unprotected and vulnerable.

"According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, only a little more than 1% of mass public shootings since 1950 have occurred in places that were not considered to be a gun-free zone," reports The Blaze. "In fact, as Crime Prevention Research Center President John Lott Jr. noted in October 2015, only two mass shootings in the U.S. since 1950 have occurred in an area where citizens were not prohibited from carrying a gun."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27440/wh ... stigiacomo
If you want to homeschool your kids and/or send them to a private school then that is fine but don't try to destroy public education, IMO. Let's try to work to improve something other than destroy something. A lot of public schools are overcrowded, teachers' workload is insane, etc... Let's start fixing something by actually investing in education instead of going off into our little filter worlds?
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:58 pm

The go-to mantra of many traditional government school advocates is that education-choice programs destroy neighborhood public schools. Their argument is flawed for a couple of reasons. The first is it shouldn’t matter if traditional public schools go the way of the dodo if children, despite public schools’ demise, are receiving a better education. And then there is the fact that their argument is simply not true.

The reality is the free-market system of school choice has always had research on its side. EdChoice.org reported, for instance, “Thirty-one empirical studies (including all methods) have examined private school choice’s impact on academic outcomes in public schools. Within that body of research, 29 studies find that choice improved the performance of nearby public schools. One study finds no significant effects. To date, no empirical study has found that school choice harms students in public schools.”
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900 ... etter.html
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by clubgop » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:06 am

Penner wrote:
clubgop wrote:
Penner wrote:
What bullshit? You are saying that I want to take your guns but I never said that.
But you are. If 98% of these shootings are occurring in gun free zones the obvious answer is to punish the rest of society that isn't experiencing the problem. That is your solution at least be honest about it.
You're projecting if you think so.
What am I protecting? Your lack of specificity? Your inability to be honest?

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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by BjornP » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:32 am

Did you go to public or private school (or homeschooled?), clubby?
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by DBTrek » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:22 am

Penner wrote: If you want to homeschool your kids and/or send them to a private school then that is fine but don't try to destroy public education, IMO. Let's try to work to improve something other than destroy something. A lot of public schools are overcrowded, teachers' workload is insane, etc... Let's start fixing something by actually investing in education instead of going off into our little filter worlds?
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We pay top dollar per student in America. We (unwisely) vote time and time again to pay the educational cartel more money every time they hit us up with the tired song of “crowded classrooms”, “teachers buying their own supplies”, and “forced to teach standardized tests”. Public education fails our children again and again, and educators always have an excuse that has nothing to do with their own incompetence. They may be the only people in the nation who can out-excuse toddlers.

And what do we get back for this staggering amount of money that we pour into the DEA void?

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Middling-to-low results. What can we count on our public educators to say about that? Same sad song about classroom sizes, disinterested parents, buying their own supplies, the burden of educating special needs children, blah, blah, blah, we need more money.
:roll:

People are getting exceptionally tired of this shit. What other profession allows you a lifelong career in a job where people repeatedly prove that they’re unqualified failures? When people prove to us that they cannot improve the education our children receive no matter how much money we give them, when do *we* wise up and stop giving them more money?
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Re: Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

Post by BjornP » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:42 am

And how many of those countries performing better than the US in those graphs, do not have public education, or even just do not allow public teachers to unionize?
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