USDA America’s Harvest Box - Blue Apron for the Poor

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Post by K@th » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:48 am

The thought that abuse is rampant is no longer valid. It used to be a huge issue, but not anymore. I think providing goods instead of SNAP card will add to the cost - you need far more employees to purchase food, get the food, sort the food, pack the food, distribute the food than you need for employees to cut checks.
While critics still like to use old arguments of rampant abuse to lambast a program that feeds millions of Americans, the fraud rate has decreased from “about 4 cents on the dollar in 1993 to about 1 cent” by 2006.

And this decline has only continued, with the 3.5% rate of fraud in 2012 reducing to less than 1.5% today.
http://time.com/4711668/history-food-stamp-fraud/
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Post by Fife » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:48 am

C-Mag wrote:As far as allergies. Certain allergies are real, few are life threatening the IMHNSHO, its being used as a fucking crutch by millions of parents and kids. Get off it.

Well, that's *one* way to weed out the genetically infirm!

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Post by DBTrek » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:50 am

PartyOf5 wrote: Who says the feds have to run it? Lots of government services are outsourced to private corporations.
Indeed.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:50 am

Any level of food stamp "abuse" doesn't matter in the first place. Do whatever the hell you want with the money. If you wind up starving on the street corner, that's your problem.

This is a complete non-issue in terms of the federal budget, in the first place.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:51 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Any level of food stamp "abuse" doesn't matter in the first place. Do whatever the hell you want with the money. If you wind up starving on the street corner, that's your problem.

This is a complete non-issue in terms of the federal budget, in the first place.

Most of it is going to single mothers and is meant for children, so yeah, abuse is a problem when it occurs. Personally, I think the children should be taken if this happens. If some chick is cashing her EBT funds illegally when those funds are supposed to help feed her children, then her cashing it in for money implies child abuse.

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Post by Fife » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:53 am

Speaker to Animals wrote: But you probably need local government to put it together and spin off the NGO that runs it.
"probably"

IRL, you don't need the state to do that; other than to record the deeds and instruments necessary for recording title at the courthouse.

If the fucking federal, state, and local governments didn't crowd out all legitimate agricultural production with subsidies, regulations, and the kind of BS we are discussing in this thread, we'd be up to our eyeballs in locally grown, cheap, fantastic food; and shipping it all over the world for fun, profit, and the betterment of Peoplekind.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:53 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Any level of food stamp "abuse" doesn't matter in the first place. Do whatever the hell you want with the money. If you wind up starving on the street corner, that's your problem.

This is a complete non-issue in terms of the federal budget, in the first place.

Most of it is going to single mothers and is meant for children, so yeah, abuse is a problem when it occurs. Personally, I think the children should be taken if this happens. If some chick is cashing her EBT funds illegally when those funds are supposed to help feed her children, then her cashing it in for money implies child abuse.
We already take malnourished children away from their parents. This is not an issue.
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Post by Fife » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:53 am

DBTrek wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote: Who says the feds have to run it? Lots of government services are outsourced to private corporations.
Indeed.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:54 am

Fife wrote:If the fucking federal, state, and local governments didn't crowd out all legitimate agricultural production with subsidies, regulations, and the kind of BS we are discussing in this thread, we'd be up to our eyeballs in locally grown, cheap, fantastic food; and shipping it all over the world for fun, profit, and the betterment of Peoplekind.
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Re: USDA America’s Harvest Box - Blue Apron for the Poor

Post by Fife » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:56 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Any level of food stamp "abuse" doesn't matter in the first place. Do whatever the hell you want with the money. If you wind up starving on the street corner, that's your problem.

This is a complete non-issue in terms of the federal budget, in the first place.

Most of it is going to single mothers and is meant for children, so yeah, abuse is a problem when it occurs. Personally, I think the children should be taken if this happens. If some chick is cashing her EBT funds illegally when those funds are supposed to help feed her children, then her cashing it in for money implies child abuse.

What we really need is a bunch more programs like this drivel proposed in the OP, a lot more federal police, and a bunch of new prisons!

WIN ! WIN ! WIN !

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