Michael Flynn Has Been Charged With Lying To The FBI

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Re: Michael Flynn Has Been Charged With Lying To The FBI

Post by ssu » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:31 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:The time when Clapper lied to congress?

Funny how lying under oath is only a problem for certain people.
Yep, that time. Found it very ironic myself too.

Well, basically this was a minor sentence for a bargain. The mess that Flynn was mixed up with the Turks was bigger... which tells us where this is going.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:34 pm

Not really. How is this related to the Mueller investigation of Russian Haxors?

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Post by clubgop » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:43 pm

ssu wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:The time when Clapper lied to congress?

Funny how lying under oath is only a problem for certain people.
Yep, that time. Found it very ironic myself too.

Well, basically this was a minor sentence for a bargain. The mess that Flynn was mixed up with the Turks was bigger... which tells us where this is going.
Where is this going? I was promised treasonous collusion with Russia to steal an election, what we are getting is groundwork for diplomatic contacts by an incoming administration, oh the horror.

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Re: Michael Flynn Has Been Charged With Lying To The FBI

Post by ssu » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:58 pm

Nukedog wrote:Not really. How is this related to the Mueller investigation of Russian Haxors?
Nuke, do note that after Trump fired Comey (and messed even the fig-leaf explanation what his staff had prepared for him), Mueller got a far wider scope of investigation than just looking what active measures the Russians did during the elections.

I think if Trump would have just had the cool to shut up, keep Comey in Place, the likely outcome of the previous investigation (before Mueller) would have been that "Yep, the Russians indeed tried to influence the election. Period."

(Besides, it's not just about the hackings: "Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.” Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.")

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Re: Michael Flynn Has Been Charged With Lying To The FBI

Post by ssu » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:00 pm

clubgop wrote:Where is this going? I was promised treasonous collusion with Russia to steal an election, what we are getting is groundwork for diplomatic contacts by an incoming administration, oh the horror.
Mueller just got one key witness.

So let's see what happens.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:09 pm

Its only a crime because She lost. Imagine if it had gone the other way around.

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Post by ssu » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:17 pm

Nukedog wrote:Its only a crime because She lost. Imagine if it had gone the other way around.
That Hillary would have won?

Well then this whole Russia-thing would be a sidenote like after uh, the French elections, where Russia also was active. I guess the discussion would be left to the Intel Community and some Washington insiders, but not much else.

Definately no Mueller inquiry. After all, Mueller happened only because of Trump firing Comey.

And with Hillary as President we would be mired in Clintonesque scandals and likely even more vitriolic political discourse than now. (Because the DNC when in opposition are wimps, but the GOP isn't.)

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Post by kybkh » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:03 pm

Nukedog wrote:Not really. How is this related to the Mueller investigation of Russian Haxors?

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Re: Michael Flynn Has Been Charged With Lying To The FBI

Post by jediuser598 » Sun Dec 03, 2017 12:48 am

C-Mag wrote:Good Posts Okee

My MAJOR PROBLEM with all this crap is unequal justice under the law. I'm fine with investigating Trump, whatever. But when you don't put Hillary under oath, you don't keep transcripts of her testimony, it's all deep state Bullshit.

Fuck the Deep State and their Inquisition against Trump.
Remember the person that decided to not pursue charges against the Clintons? Oh yeah, that was Trump. :o

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Re: Michael Flynn Has Been Charged With Lying To The FBI

Post by C-Mag » Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:05 am

jediuser598 wrote:
C-Mag wrote:Good Posts Okee

My MAJOR PROBLEM with all this crap is unequal justice under the law. I'm fine with investigating Trump, whatever. But when you don't put Hillary under oath, you don't keep transcripts of her testimony, it's all deep state Bullshit.

Fuck the Deep State and their Inquisition against Trump.
Remember the person that decided to not pursue charges against the Clintons? Oh yeah, that was Trump. :o

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politi ... story.html
Well that's all very nice........... but it's the FBI's job to investigate and provide evidence and the DOJ's job to refer charges if laws were broken.

In this case, the DOJ illegally abrogated it's duty and responsibility to exam the evidence compiled against HIllary. Jim Comey doesn't get to say that Hillary should not be charged, but he did in advance of all the evidence. And the way they investigated Hillary was a failure of the FBI to carry out their duties and responsibilities.

This is unequal justice under the law.
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