Trump tells Congress that North Korea can kill 90% of the population with

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:37 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Military equipment is already hardened!
Which is exactly why the MIC is pimping the EMP hysteria for civil applications, the military market is saturated, the civil market is the growth market, lo and behold, congress starts propagating EMP hysteria breathlessly, making North Korea out to be an existential threat greater than even the Soviet Union, all based on the EMP fallacy and a science fiction novel best seller.

EMP is a threat, it's not that big of a threat, but as people have said earlier in the thread, never hurts to go completely hysterical about the problem, when you're trying to pimp your products as the solution, "ZOMG 90% Lethality" is MIC marketing, facilitated by congress, same old same old as it ever was.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:47 pm

Except they are not. They have been the ones lobbying against this stuff for years now. It's a threat to their budgets.

It's also a great big example of how useless they really are at defending CONUS.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:00 pm

It's not the defense contractors who oppose the EMP caucus, the defense contractors are totally on side with the hysteria, the entrenched interests which are out to stop the EMP caucus is the electricity industry, North American Energy Reliability Commission (NERC) and the Federal Energy Reliability Commission (FERC), this is the power companies, they don't want congress to legislate EMP hardening because it will cost them big money, the MIC is the entenched interests which would profit mightily if congress imposed legislation to force the power companies to buy products which are only made by defense contractors.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:01 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:It's not the defense contractors who oppose the EMP caucus, the defense contractors are totally on side with the hysteria, the entrenched interests which are out to stop the EMP caucus is the electricity industry, North American Energy Reliability Commission (NERC) and the Federal Energy Reliability Commission (FERC), this is the power companies, they don't want congress to legislat EMP hardening because it will cost them money, the MIC is the entenched interests which would profit mightily if congress imposed legislation to force the power companies to buy products which are only made by defense contracto

LOL. No they are not. Where? Show me where they have even half a chub for hardening the electrical grid.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:05 pm

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterdetwi ... 4a535a7a14

It's really only a small group of scientists and engineers raising the alarm. MIC wants nothing to do with it because they not only will not profit, they stand to lose money in budget cuts. It also underscores the waste of all their high-budget boondoggles.

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Post by heydaralon » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:13 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:You're full of shit on this one. No argument. Just bluster. Okay. Your argument from incredulity fallacy is noted. You have nothing to offer here.
I offer the opinion; "breathless overwrought hysteria", people can take it or leave it, if they think you're the expert, more power to them, but I don't, I find you to be a breathless and overwrought hysterical nonsense peddler, on pretty much every single topic actually.

"90% lethality" is completely unfounded, even within the context of advised analysis, you're pulling a number out of your ass, so there's no need to argue with that, "90% lethality" is disproven by default, opinion is more than sufficient to get you off your game, clearly, since you're getting upset about it already.
I think an EMP attack would be a bit worse than a bad thunderstorm. You guys have to remember that electricity is merely a social construct. There is nothing on netflix and youtube that I cant come up with in my imagination. Some people watch Criminal minds, I just imagine
My own episodes. I can make the killer anyone. When I watch Maury in my imagination channel, I can pick ANYONE as the father. Lena Dunhams Girls is a little trickier, because I cant imagine anyone THAT ugly. While many people are bemoaning the lack of power or readily available medicine, I will be tuning into my imagination network and watching all sorts of great shows in mind. No EMP attack can take that away from me. I will also be watching lots of imagination pornhub and imagi-masturbating.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:17 pm

I'll leave it to others to come to their own conclusions, but one of the biggest EMP hysteria mongers in the USA?

Frank Gaffney at the Center for Security Policy...

https://www.google.ca/search?dcr=0&q=fr ... IQvwUIIygA

Who are some of the biggest contributors funding Frank "EMP: Existential Threat to America" Gaffney and his Center for Security Policy?

That's right folks, Boeing, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon. Mmmhmm.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:38 pm

You know who else gave Frank Gaffney $100,000?

"Anonymous" at 1901 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington DC.

You know who is in that building?

Central Intelligence Agency Washington Field Office (CIA WAFO)

Just sayun'
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:07 pm

Whoa, wait a minute, going through his tax return;

"Anonymous" at 1901 Pennsylvania Ave keeps coming up over and over, one payment of $100,000, another for $250,000, and a third for $332,000

That's a total of $682,000 paid to Frank "ZOMG EMP from North Korea" Gaffney, in just one year, from "Anonymous" at 1901 Pennsylvania Ave Washington DC...

... in the same building as the Central Intelligence Agency Washington Field Office.

Kawinkydink?
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Post by Fife » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:19 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Fife wrote:I'm looking forward to the debates in Congress regarding the declaration of war against DPRK.

Should be good stuff, eh?

Oh, we don't have debates anymore. We commit troops and then get a statement from the Oval Office from the POTUS.......... if we're lucky
Stuff is "hardened" nowadays, it seems.