American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

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Re: American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

Post by DBTrek » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:30 pm

Lots of bitching about wages not going up.
No commentary on why the same people's employable skills aren't ever going up.
:think:
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Re: American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:30 pm

SilverEagle wrote:
Okeefenokee wrote:Just like point of sale markup is not the same as profit, living paycheck to paycheck is not the same as poverty.
Nobody here is saying that. What we are saying is that it's harder to build up savings vs the past and it's getting harder and harder every year. The whole point of the article is that Americans 20 years ago lived good and were as a whole able to save money. Now 18 years of stagnant wages and constant increase in living costs is putting a giant squeeze on the middle class. WTF don't you get Okee?
I guess that part about the entire world economy changing over the past half century. That must be the part I missed.

Zomg! It's harder to get by than it used to be. One man with a job in a mill used to be able to support a family of five and take a vacation today, but not anymore!

Newsflash, folks. That's been the general direction for a long long time. If you can't increase your income, then find ways to spend less, because that trend shows no sign of turning around.
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Re: American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

Post by apeman » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:33 pm

DBTrek wrote:Lots of bitching about wages not going up.
No commentary on why the same people's employable skills aren't ever going up.
:think:
In fact, I'm pretty sure that we have it immeasurably better than coal miners 100 years ago.

I think we are crying just because it might be harder to get ahead now than for the boomers.

Still easier to get ahead than any other time in history.

We are so rich and comfortably we shit post with strangers all day at work.

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Re: American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:34 pm

DBTrek wrote:Lots of bitching about wages not going up.
No commentary on why the same people's employable skills aren't ever going up.
:think:
For those with the highly sought after employable skills, wages have actually skyrocketed against almost no inflation at all.
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Re: American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

Post by ssu » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:35 pm

SilverEagle wrote:
ssu wrote:Well, there's not much inflation now. No but stagnant wages magnifies it's effect

. But surely can be devastating if it all comes down (again). It's not if, it's when.
Yep, well, that might take a while. Being a permabear isn't very good investment approach.

Of course for the US the simple thing is if blowing the bubble doesn't work, then just do what Nixon did. Default. A then continue living. After all, the US just has defaulted was it two times in it's history? Pretty stable to me.

Btw Trump would be the perfect President to do that. Nope, we are not paying! God, the Trump-fans would love that. And the anti-Trump crowd would saying "First he bankrupted his businesses, now as President his country!!!" Oh I can imagine the outrage.

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Re: American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

Post by apeman » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:36 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
DBTrek wrote:Lots of bitching about wages not going up.
No commentary on why the same people's employable skills aren't ever going up.
:think:
For those with the highly sought after employable skills, wages have actually skyrocketed against almost no inflation at all.
I need to hire a young attorney, and literally cannot find one with the requisite skills, we are willing to overpay, but if you're good and tough, the world is your oyster.

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Re: American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

Post by The Conservative » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:37 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
DBTrek wrote:Lots of bitching about wages not going up.
No commentary on why the same people's employable skills aren't ever going up.
:think:
For those with the highly sought after employable skills, wages have actually skyrocketed against almost no inflation at all.
Sure, it depends on what you call inflation.
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Re: American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:38 pm

apeman wrote:
DBTrek wrote:Lots of bitching about wages not going up.
No commentary on why the same people's employable skills aren't ever going up.
:think:
In fact, I'm pretty sure that we have it immeasurably better than coal miners 100 years ago.

I think we are crying just because it might be harder to get ahead now than for the boomers.
Not actually the case, in fact, Boomers didn't move up in the ranks for a long time, in this mythical age of Milk and Honey for the young Boomers, they were actually peons who simply fetched coffee for their Greatest Generation bosses.

The Boomers are on top now, but took them 50 years to get there.
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Re: American's living Paycheck to Paycheck

Post by apeman » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:38 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
DBTrek wrote:Lots of bitching about wages not going up.
No commentary on why the same people's employable skills aren't ever going up.
:think:
For those with the highly sought after employable skills, wages have actually skyrocketed against almost no inflation at all.
Sure, it depends on what you call inflation.
Yeah

So

Don't keep your money under the mattress un-deployed for 30 frickin years and you'll be OK