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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:05 pm
Reason asks if 'American's have a right to know if their government is incompetent."
http://reason.com/blog/2017/07/07/do-am ... now-if-the
But it would also be stupid to blindly accept the assertion that these leaks all have the potential to damage national security. The report does not go through any of these news stories to detail what American interest is threatened by the leak of confidential information. It merely argues that the threat exists because the disclosures violate the law. At one point the report even says that the justifications people often use for leaks—that they're bringing to light illegal behavior or bad policies—don't have any legal foundation. This is often true, which is why Edward Snowden is hiding in Russia rather than arguing his case in the American courts. But the implication is that the government should punish leakers even when they provide valuable, vital information to the public.
Or, as Charles Manson once said:
Just because you're convicted in a court room doesn't mean you're guilty of something.
And finally,
Here's a thought exercise: Imagine all those headlines originated from Obama's administration, not Trump's. Wouldn't we want to know how an operation in Yemen went bad under Obama's leadership? Wouldn't we want to know if his own agencies disagreed with the need for some of his policies? Wouldn't we want to know if he loses his temper with the leader of another country? Rather than highlighting the dangers of leaks within the Trump administration, this list frankly should make us angry that we didn't get more leaks under Obama and Bush.
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HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Hwen Hoshino
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by Hwen Hoshino » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:51 pm
Okeefenokee wrote:Hwen Hoshino wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:
you see what you just did, right?
you started at, i don't like his attitude.
and you ended with us being in a somali anarchy because participation in the government dropped to zero.
can you take a step back and see how ridiculous that is?
we're nowhere near zero levels of participation. any discussion of that would be so hypothetical and completely fictionalized as to make it meaningless.
it's just one more fairytale coming out of the same camp that has been churning out fairytales non-stop since november.
You are in the status quo can never change camp.
sorry scooter, the status quo just got upended. elections have consequences, and all that. it's you who are railing against change, not me.
I think this change will lead to more principle long term.
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by Okeefenokee » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:17 pm
Hwen Hoshino wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:Hwen Hoshino wrote:
You are in the status quo can never change camp.
sorry scooter, the status quo just got upended. elections have consequences, and all that. it's you who are railing against change, not me.
I think this change will lead to more principle long term.
depends of what you mean by principles, if that's what you meant to type.
if by principles you mean behaving in a prestigious manner with all of the typical customs of a nobleman, then no, that ain't happening.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
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Hwen Hoshino
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by Hwen Hoshino » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:30 pm
Okeefenokee wrote:Hwen Hoshino wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:
sorry scooter, the status quo just got upended. elections have consequences, and all that. it's you who are railing against change, not me.
I think this change will lead to more principle long term.
depends of what you mean by principles, if that's what you meant to type.
if by principles you mean behaving in a prestigious manner with all of the typical customs of a nobleman, then no, that ain't happening.
That sounds like a consistent service associated with a brand. Radical!!!
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Okeefenokee
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by Okeefenokee » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:48 pm
Hwen Hoshino wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:Hwen Hoshino wrote:
I think this change will lead to more principle long term.
depends of what you mean by principles, if that's what you meant to type.
if by principles you mean behaving in a prestigious manner with all of the typical customs of a nobleman, then no, that ain't happening.
That sounds like a consistent service associated with a brand. Radical!!!
doesn't matter. look who's president. what works, works, and winners recognize that. the reason politicians were the way they were is mostly because that was what worked. it's working less now, so expect to see less of it.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
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Hwen Hoshino
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by Hwen Hoshino » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:51 pm
Okeefenokee wrote:Hwen Hoshino wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:
depends of what you mean by principles, if that's what you meant to type.
if by principles you mean behaving in a prestigious manner with all of the typical customs of a nobleman, then no, that ain't happening.
That sounds like a consistent service associated with a brand. Radical!!!
doesn't matter. look who's president. what works, works, and winners recognize that. the reason politicians were the way they were is mostly because that was what worked. it's working less now, so expect to see less of it.
So, more principle or less principle?
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Okeefenokee
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by Okeefenokee » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:08 pm
Hwen Hoshino wrote:Okeefenokee wrote:Hwen Hoshino wrote:
That sounds like a consistent service associated with a brand. Radical!!!
doesn't matter. look who's president. what works, works, and winners recognize that. the reason politicians were the way they were is mostly because that was what worked. it's working less now, so expect to see less of it.
So, more principle or less principle?
all right, it's time.
hwen, you have a car with remote entry and automatic windows. it's a hot day, and you want to leave the engine running so the ac keeps going. you step out of the car and press the lock button, but all the doors unlock as a measure to prevent you from locking yourself out of your car. how do you secure your car with the keys in the ignition and the engine running?
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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:15 pm
OOOH!
Get a real mean fuckin' dog, keep it in the car when you leave.
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen
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by Okeefenokee » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:58 pm
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:OOOH!
Get a real mean fuckin' dog, keep it in the car when you leave.
/tears up your exam for cheating
hwen, if you say anything about a mean dog, you fail this test.
any of you other fucking commies wanna try to help your chatbot boi cheat, martin's in this with me.
answer the question, hwen.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:41 am
Okeefenokee wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:OOOH!
Get a real mean fuckin' dog, keep it in the car when you leave.
/tears up your exam for cheating
hwen, if you say anything about a mean dog, you fail this test.
any of you other fucking commies wanna try to help your chatbot boi cheat, martin's in this with me.
answer the question, hwen.
Shit, sorry man, I didn't see the other thread... I though it was open.
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
-Hwen