Turkey Has Proof of US/ISIS Cooperation

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Re: Turkey Has Proof of US/ISIS Cooperation

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:56 pm

I'm not the one that DrY and Monte are getting tired with despite the fact I actually advocate for things that they are completely against. I still get to have an honest discussion with them and if you can't do it maybe you should go look up my posts concerning the issues I'm passionate about and see how you have a conversation sans straw men and point scoring.

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Re: Turkey Has Proof of US/ISIS Cooperation

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:57 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:I'm not the one that DrY and Monte are getting tired with despite the fact I actually advocate for things that they are completely against. I still get to have an honest discussion with them and if you can't do it maybe you should go look up my posts concerning the issues I'm passionate about and see how you have a conversation sans straw men and point scoring.

Please post examples of the things you just accused me of.



TheReal_ND wrote:Dude I'm reading some of your guys' posts and I'm like seriously wtf this is uncalled for. If you want to turn this into an echo chamber then do it but I'm telling you right now I got enough of those to hang out at and really they are more interesting than you guys.
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Re: Turkey Has Proof of US/ISIS Cooperation

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:05 pm

I would rather you just agree to stop calling DrY and Monte Marxists and stop being so melodramatic about things. It's not fun anymore. Yeah the threat is real but you're essentially insulting, literally two, forum members that are long time, open minded friends. If you want to disagree there are less dogmatic ways to do it ffs.

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Re: Turkey Has Proof of US/ISIS Cooperation

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:08 pm

But they are marxists. Calling them marxist is not an insult. They subscribe to cultural marxism. You can rename it whatever you want. That's still them. A rose by any other name..

If I can't even use the correct words to describe something, then how is that any different than DrY's regime of declaring opposing ideas as verboten on this forum?

I didn't call them cunts. I didn't insult them. I labeled them marxist and provided good reasons for doing so.

None of this crap even began until Martin Hash got high in a Laotian opium den and spilled the beans, and GCF read the post before he deleted it only to blab it out to everybody. Their hate is entirely pathological.

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Re: Turkey Has Proof of US/ISIS Cooperation

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:12 pm

Cultural Marxism is a fucking meme dude. They aren't Marxist they just view the world differently. DrY and Monte are not your enemies and they are my friends. Knock this shit off dude. Try fucking talking to them without labeling them off the bat.

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Re: Turkey Has Proof of US/ISIS Cooperation

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:14 pm

It's not a meme, and you failed to present any examples of doing the things you accused me of.

I have not reciprocated their nastiness in this forum at all. They weren't even nasty like this until they learned who I am.

If people want a better forum, then I'd suggest taking a gander at people who try to bury ideas they don't like with insults and picture posts, or who attempt to declare ideas they don't like verboten, while pretending as though the person who expresses them is somehow the aggressor when that is not the case.

We all come here to present ideas. If you don't like an argument, then counter it with your own argument. If you can't counter it, then admit defeat or just walk away. It doesn't help to personally attack the person, or the demand that they shut up or go away, or to try to bury the argument in a flame war of picture posts and personal attacks.

I presented an argument and this guy proceeded to demand that I not be allowed to present that argument again. He didn't have a counterargument to it. They never do. They only have their demands that the argument be silenced, ignored, or dismissed because they simply don't like it.

That's not the makings of a forum where rational people exchange ideas and let the best arguments win. That's exactly what cultural marxism is all about, though..
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Re: Turkey Has Proof of US/ISIS Cooperation

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:17 pm

No they got fed up with being called Marxists and called you out for your straw man to the moon arguments that are not only repitive but kind of annoying. Cultural Marxism is literally a meme dude look it up.

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Re: Turkey Has Proof of US/ISIS Cooperation

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:19 pm

Well, they can get upset with being called what they are all day. That doesn't bother me one bit. It's not insult to call them marxists. The evidence supports the fact. And what's more, they are free to argue why they are *not* marxists instead of trying to silence me.

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Re: Turkey Has Proof of US/ISIS Cooperation

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:23 pm

Nobody is trying to silence you. They are requesting a level of civility that you refuse to give them because you are convinced this is still the front line dood. It's not. They aren't Marxists and they want to post here to discuss things. I don't know if you've noticed but they are often times specifically requesting to have a discussion without all the inane tired as fuck straw men.

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Re: Turkey Has Proof of US/ISIS Cooperation

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:31 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:Nobody is trying to silence you. They are requesting a level of civility that you refuse to give them because you are convinced this is still the front line dood. It's not. They aren't Marxists and they want to post here to discuss things. I don't know if you've noticed but they are often times specifically requesting to have a discussion without all the inane tired as fuck straw men.

For the last time, please show me where I failed to provide them civility when all they have done since Martin Hash got high in an opium den and revealed my identity is smeared and attacked me?

I have done no such thing. Calling them marxist is not an attack. It's not uncivil. It's what they espouse.

You are pissing me the fuck off because I have gone well out of my way to be civil to people in this forum despite the nastiness and incivility they have directed towards me.