THE ERA OF TRUMP

[Speaker to Animals]

It's just out in the open lawlessness. It's fucking unbelievable.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/201 ... portation/

[Smitty-48]

I am focusing on the United States has actually contributed from the late 80s itself to the present mess.

Actually begins in the late 60's, when Nixon abandons the Tripartite Declaration and makes America the Regional Hegemon in the wake of the British Empire withdrawing from East of Suez, in order to block the Soviets from moving in to fill the vacuum left by the British, begins with the Nixon Doctrine in 1970, and culminates with the Carter Doctrine in 1980.

Everything which comes after is all related to that, to wit, a Cold War legacy project which simply took on a life of its own.

[Penner]

This isn't Trump's fault, but still, it seems like the Right's zeitgeist:

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[jbird4049]

I am focusing on the United States has actually contributed from the late 80s itself to the present mess.

Actually begins in the late 60's, when Nixon abandons the Tripartite Declaration and makes America the Regional Hegemon in the wake of the British Empire withdrawing from East of Suez, in order to block the Soviets from moving in to fill the vacuum left by the British, begins with the Nixon Doctrine in 1970, and culminates with the Carter Doctrine in 1980.

Everything which comes after is all related to that, to wit, a Cold War legacy project which simply took on a life of its own.

Those are good points.

It is just that in that area, there is always another precursor, so I am trying to avoid the rabbit hole. I am focusing on the more recent actions that were, or should have been, obvious follies, or were so badly handled that they became follies, and not the causes of those more recent actions.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Who needs a functioning ecosystem, when we can get another 1% GDP?!?

[Smitty-48]

I am focusing on the United States has actually contributed from the late 80s itself to the present mess.

Actually begins in the late 60's, when Nixon abandons the Tripartite Declaration and makes America the Regional Hegemon in the wake of the British Empire withdrawing from East of Suez, in order to block the Soviets from moving in to fill the vacuum left by the British, begins with the Nixon Doctrine in 1970, and culminates with the Carter Doctrine in 1980.

Everything which comes after is all related to that, to wit, a Cold War legacy project which simply took on a life of its own.

Those are good points.

It is just that in that area, there is always another precursor, so I am trying to avoid the rabbit hole. I am focusing on the more recent actions that were, or should have been, obvious follies, or were so badly handled that they became follies, and not the causes of those more recent actions.

The precursors prior to 1970 were driven by the British and to a lesser extent the French, but ever since the senior partner in the Entente Cordiale withdrew from East of Suez, the United States has been the Regional Hegemon, prior to this, the United States was keeping it at arms length, not driving the bus, even keeping the British and French and their proxies in check, after this inflection point however, the United States had taken all the British proxies as its own; Palestine, Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, etcetera

"The conditions that caused IS" or what have you, everything the US does and is doing, is all related to the same thing; attempting to manage these British Imperial proxies.

Bear in mind, all these proxies; Palestine, Arabia, Iraq, Pakistan; fake countries, artificial entities fabricated by the British, as was Iran, until the revolution at least.

Why are they so difficult to manage? Because they are starkly divided internally. Why? Because the British made them that way intentionally. Why? To divide and rule; the conditions which lead to IS and everything else in fact.

Why has America done all that it has done? A series of reactive measures to deal with what it inhereted when it took these British proxies for its own.

Why did America take these British proxies for its own? To prevent the Soviets from doing so.

[jbird4049]

Actually begins in the late 60's, when Nixon abandons the Tripartite Declaration and makes America the Regional Hegemon in the wake of the British Empire withdrawing from East of Suez, in order to block the Soviets from moving in to fill the vacuum left by the British, begins with the Nixon Doctrine in 1970, and culminates with the Carter Doctrine in 1980.

Everything which comes after is all related to that, to wit, a Cold War legacy project which simply took on a life of its own.

Those are good points.

It is just that in that area, there is always another precursor, so I am trying to avoid the rabbit hole. I am focusing on the more recent actions that were, or should have been, obvious follies, or were so badly handled that they became follies, and not the causes of those more recent actions.

The precursors prior to 1970 were driven by the British and to a lesser extent the French, but ever since the senior partner in the Entente Cordiale withdrew from East of Suez, the United States has been the Regional Hegemon, prior to this, the United States was keeping it at arms length, not driving the bus, even keeping the British and French and their proxies in check, after this inflection point however, the United States had taken all the British proxies as its own; Palestine, Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, etcetera

"The conditions that caused IS" or what have you, everything the US does and is doing, is all related to the same thing; attempting to manage these British Imperial proxies.

Bear in mind, all these proxies; Palestine, Arabia, Iraq, Pakistan; fake countries, artificial entities fabricated by the British, as was Iran, until the revolution at least.

Why are they so difficult to manage? Because they are starkly divided internally. Why? Because the British made them that way intentionally. Why? To divide and rule; the conditions which lead to IS and everything else in fact.

Why has America done all that it has done? A series of reactive measures to deal with what it inhereted when it took these British proxies for its own.

Why did America take these British proxies for its own? To prevent the Soviets from doing so.

Yes, sometimes there are no easy answers. But between overthrowing, undermining, supporting, unsupporting, leaving, invading, raiding, and bombing Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Syria, the Mujaheddin, Al Queda, ISIL, and just about every single other regime, faction, organization, and leader there, we could hardly have done worse! It's like the various administrations, and the intelligence agencies, lose all sense. The stupid is strong with us over there. The last wise decision was by Bush the Elder to not overthrow Saddam Hussein.

[Smitty-48]

The answer is actually quite simple, the British ran it to secure the Raj in India, Jewel in the Crown, no more Raj, no more reason to try to run it, America took it off the British hands to prevent the Soviet Union from running it, no more Soviet Union, no more reason to try to run it.

The answer is simply; it's a zombie project, for which no one even remembers what the purpose was anymore.

[Montegriffo]

The answer is actually quite simple, the British ran it to secure the Raj in India, Jewel in the Crown, no more Raj, no more reason to try to run it, America took it off the British hands to prevent the Soviet Union from running it, no more Soviet Union, no more reason to try to run it.

The answer is simply; it's a zombie project, for which no one even remembers what the purpose was anymore.

Apart from the oil and oil pipelines.
Roll on renewable energy then we can put all this shit behind us.....
plus there's the free passage to the Suez canal through the Arabian gulf.

[Smitty-48]

Apart from the oil and oil pipelines.
Roll on renewable energy then we can put all this shit behind us.....
plus there's the free passage to the Suez canal through the Arabian gulf.

That is often asserted, but it is in fact sophistry, there is no reason to try to run it for oil, the oil has to come to market one way or the other, and intervention in the Middle East merely props up OPEC, a cartel which the United States has no control over whatsoever, and the Suez Canal is not under any threat, if the Suez Canal was threatened, then maybe there would be some reason to go to war, but the whole time the US has been at war in the ME, for not one second has access to the Suez Canal been threatened, if anything, going to war in the Middle East for no reason, actually brings access to the Suez Canal into more peril than not going to war.

Moreover, America is sitting on a motherlode of shale oil, so not only is it counterproductive to invest in leftarded "renewables", its counterproductive to prop up OPEC as well, greater oil scarcity; is actually in America's interests, Canada's too.

North America going to great effort and expense to try for force the market off of oil and/or prop up OPEC, is North America going to great effort and expense to cut its own throat.