Europe, Boring Until it's Not

[TheReal_ND]

It's true. The litany of machines I've learned to operate over the years lend experience to the point I can pick up a new one in a matter of days instead of weeks; along with more overall experience concerning accidents and how to prevent them. These kind of skills are why steel mills require resumes and references. I just learned a couple new machines the other day. Not great at the Raymond lift yet but I'm putting it to work. Somebody leaves, see ya!

These sorts of jobs in engineering and steel just aren't available any more. Reducing immigration isn't going to magically make them appear again. Maggie killed off a lot of the ship building, steel and coal jobs 30 years ago when she was "modernising" Britain.

Couldn't you just reverse the Thatcher policies? Seems a little defeatist, Bruce Hornsby.

Immigrants won't help you. You guys prattle on about us starting a new world war all day in and all day out yet you never once gave thought to how immasculated you yourself are.

[Montegriffo]

Unemployment last year hit an 11 year low, at the time of the vote it was 4.9% compared to 4.8% in Germany, 10.5% in France, 12.4% in Italy and 23.1% in Spain. Anyone campaigning on grounds of unemployment was being dishonest.

What type of job matters though. Unskilled service does not the same pay make as unskilled factory worker or even labor. They do the same thing over here where they made up the difference with all the new table waiting and register manning jobs made the difference up. It is not something men of blue collar will do with any modicum of self respect my man.

Yup. And one great thing about unskilled factory workers is that they tend to become skilled factory workers.

I don't know what skills waiters gain over time...extra good pitcher pouring skillz? I guess that side pour that lets in ice cubes is kinda hard to do.

For the record, this is not meant to be insulting to anyone who waits tables. I have done way worse things to pay the bills. I just think it's insane that we expect these jobs to replace jobs where people actually create things.

It's not immigration that has killed manufacturing jobs it is cheap imports from places like China or superior quality ones from Germany. Any alternatives result in higher prices for products without any increases in wages.

[Calculus Man]

Also, my company literally has a subsidiary that manufactures products in the UK...with steel.

Are you speaking generally? Because we have the same problem here, in general. People like Nuke and I are a dying breed, and we know it. Therefore, Trump.

[TheReal_ND]

You're full of shit. Plenty of good tool and die manufacturers from England but you fuckers killed it off in the name of globalization. Shame is upon your house for centuries.

[Calculus Man]

What type of job matters though. Unskilled service does not the same pay make as unskilled factory worker or even labor. They do the same thing over here where they made up the difference with all the new table waiting and register manning jobs made the difference up. It is not something men of blue collar will do with any modicum of self respect my man.

Yup. And one great thing about unskilled factory workers is that they tend to become skilled factory workers.

I don't know what skills waiters gain over time...extra good pitcher pouring skillz? I guess that side pour that lets in ice cubes is kinda hard to do.

For the record, this is not meant to be insulting to anyone who waits tables. I have done way worse things to pay the bills. I just think it's insane that we expect these jobs to replace jobs where people actually create things.

It's not immigration that has killed manufacturing jobs it is cheap imports from places like China or superior quality ones from Germany. Any alternatives result in higher prices for products without any increases in wages.

Well, now that you'll have sovereignty over your borders again, you can do something about those cheap imports.

[Montegriffo]

Yup. And one great thing about unskilled factory workers is that they tend to become skilled factory workers.

I don't know what skills waiters gain over time...extra good pitcher pouring skillz? I guess that side pour that lets in ice cubes is kinda hard to do.

For the record, this is not meant to be insulting to anyone who waits tables. I have done way worse things to pay the bills. I just think it's insane that we expect these jobs to replace jobs where people actually create things.

It's not immigration that has killed manufacturing jobs it is cheap imports from places like China or superior quality ones from Germany. Any alternatives result in higher prices for products without any increases in wages.

Well, now that you'll have sovereignty over your borders again, you can do something about those cheap imports.

Yeah, not sure if you know this but China is not in the EU.
Nobody is going to invest in re-starting an uncompetitive steel industry and Maggie made it clear there was going to be no more govt subsidies to prop it up.

[Okeefenokee]

Burgers aren't a luxury over here. You better believe there will be riots in the street over that.

True. We prolly got more cows than india.

[Speaker to Animals]

Burgers aren't a luxury over here. You better believe there will be riots in the street over that.

True. We prolly got more cows than india.

We should demand they hand over their cows as tribute.

[Calculus Man]

It's not immigration that has killed manufacturing jobs it is cheap imports from places like China or superior quality ones from Germany. Any alternatives result in higher prices for products without any increases in wages.

Well, now that you'll have sovereignty over your borders again, you can do something about those cheap imports.

Yeah, not sure if you know this but China is not in the EU.
Nobody is going to invest in re-starting an uncompetitive steel industry and Maggie made it clear there was going to be no more govt subsidies to prop it up.

Good lord...the point is that Britain can now determine for itself the appropriate tariff to place on Chinese goods. What the hell does China not being in the EU have to do with anything?

Also, you do know that Margaret Thatcher is fucking dead, right? Is her ghost going to haunt the chambers of Parliament if you go against her wishes or something?

[Speaker to Animals]

What the fucking fuck, guys.

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