Daniel Shaver shooting

[heydaralon]

The article describes the guy as SWATaustistic. wouldn't that be TC with his homemade flashbang or no?

[Speaker to Animals]

No, they are going to blame the person who made the prank call for the murder in order to escape accountability for committing murder. You can take that to the bank.

The prank caller is guilty of making a false police report. It's the cop who is guilty of murder.

“The guy yelling fire in the crowded theater is only making a false report, it’s the stampeding crowd that’s guilty of murder”

I think there’s more culpability than a simple false report when you intentionally deceive people to put lives in peril.

Filing a false police report is not murder. Shooting an unarmed, innocent man in the face who posed no threat to you at all.. That's murder. Dictionary definition thereof.

[Smitty-48]

All this talk of militarization of the police, but the problem is quite clearly the opposite, there's no command and control, it's just a free for all and everybody is weapons free all the time. For a military hostage rescue, there is a clearly defined chain of command, with tight operational control, and only the commander may order the code word to execute the immediate action from the command post. These are not even really SWAT teams, a SWAT team would be militarized, but these officers are clearly not.

The problem is civilianization of the tactical, a free for all with no operational control whatsoever.

[Smitty-48]

I mean, the three central tenets of a military hostage rescue are as follows;

1) the operation may not be conducted unless and until the lawful civilian authority transfers control to the military, formally, in writing.

2) the immediate action is not available until such time as a command post has been established with an officer commanding in operational control

3) no direct action is taken unless and until hostages are killed and/or are imminently about to be killed.

In a military hostage rescue, there is no rush, you could literally be sitting there for weeks, waiting for the hostages to be in imminent peril, but otherwise simply watching your arcs and reporting, and nobody would open fire, without code word to execute, from the command post.

Even with the code word to execute, a sniper initiated assault is a very tightly controlled maneuver in of itself, the snipers are coordinated, engaging only designated and approved targets, down to split second timing.

The commander actually has a box with lights on it, in the command post, when a sniper has the shot, he presses a switch on his rifle causing one of these light to come on, the commander doesn't give the code word to execute, until all these light are on, at the same moment.

The snipers could be eyes on, for days on end, with the commander just waiting for this window to open.

[The Conservative]

The article describes the guy as SWATaustistic. wouldn't that be TC with his homemade flashbang or no?

SWAutistic. Get it right if you are going to insult

[heydaralon]

The article describes the guy as SWATaustistic. wouldn't that be TC with his homemade flashbang or no?

SWAutistic. Get it right if you are going to insult

Who is insulting?

Jerk.

[Smitty-48]

The model these American police are using, is not the military, the model they are using, is from the Wild West, the posse shows up with a Gatling gun, if the desperadoes even so much as twitch, one of the posse lets fly, and then they all let fly, with nobody in command at all.

It's not militarization, it's cowboyization. Culture is destiny.

[DBTrek]

Filing a false police report is not murder. Shooting an unarmed, innocent man in the face who posed no threat to you at all.. That's murder. Dictionary definition thereof.

... and once again we’ll all sit back and watch this play out in a way that demonstrates your utter lack of understanding.
/shrug

If you think this guy will only be charged with filing a false report, or the cop is going to be charged with murder, you’re in for another rude awakening.

[Smitty-48]

Police in of themselves, was not really a thing in America, it's not the model of law enforcement in America, the archetype is not Sir Robert Peel, the archetype is Wyatt Earp, who, not really a policeman actually. The is no Officer Friendly, and never was.

[The Conservative]

Filing a false police report is not murder. Shooting an unarmed, innocent man in the face who posed no threat to you at all.. That's murder. Dictionary definition thereof.

... and once again we’ll all sit back and watch this play out in a way that demonstrates your utter lack of understanding.
/shrug

If you think this guy will only be charged with filing a false report, or the cop is going to be charged with murder, you’re in for another rude awakening.

This guy also was responsible for a bomb scare call-in for a CoD tournament as well. He has a history of doing this; he may not be able to get away with this one because it caused a death this time.