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[Speaker to Animals]

The army is only for social experiments now.

Then we won't win any serious war.

[TheReal_ND]

Implying that's not the point.

[heydaralon]

The bulk of the spending needs to shift back to the Army and a little more to the Air Force. The navy is killing us.

What is your reasoning behind this?

That most of what we dump into the USN is an utter waste.

Granted, a lot of of the same problems exist in all the branches, especially the USAF.

But looking at a world war three conflict.. the Navy is a joke. The carrier groups will be sunk. That's a lot of capital that could have gone into building a better army.

The Air Force needs a major shakeup. The original plan was global power, global reach. They need to return to that. I'd scrap the F-35 program forthwith. Tell Lockmart to start designing new F-22 models with the kinds of avionics packages they put on the F-35.

I'd go to Northrup Grumman in secret and tell them straight out, I don't like the idea of the current generation of aircraft. I want aircraft we launch from CONUS that can achieve suborbital flight, and strike anywhere on Earth. There's no need for a carrier group when you have that. They can even launch kinetic rods up there and not get anywhere near the range at which they can be shot down.

The army needs it's own air assets for CAS. Give them the A-10 instead of retiring the fucking thing. Then start a project for a newer version of it. I am not an army guy, so I don't know what they really need on the ground, but I would start by talking to commanders at the battalion level.

I'd retire almost everybody you see in the Pentagon overnight.


Right now, the purpose of the MIC is to keep the tax dollars flowing. The purpose of the MIC should be to win wars, and win wars we don't necessarily get to choose.

The War Nerd wrote a great piece about how vulnerable our carriers would be in the Persian Gulf even against those dinghys and speedboats that the Iranian Navy uses. He is right, but aren't carriers the best way to move large amounts of troops quickly? Any transport ship is gonna be kind of a sitting duck, but as long as wars are fought with humans there has to be some way to effectively move lots of them around.

[Okeefenokee]

We move troops on chartered commercial flights.

[heydaralon]

We move troops on chartered commercial flights.

Is that the case for the Navy and Marines?

[TheReal_ND]

Yeah you e never seen them walking around at the airport? They have Dress C's or whatever so it might not be readily apparent to someone what branch they are in. Army is always digi camo.

[heydaralon]

Yeah you e never seen them walking around at the airport? They have Dress C's or whatever so it might not be readily apparent to someone what branch they are in. Army is always digi camo.

I know that the army gets on commercial flights, but I thought the Navy did move most of their guys around with the carriers. My buddy in the Navy was on the Enterprise (I think it was that one) and he travelled all over the world on 2 different carriers, through the persian gulf, Japan etc.

[Okeefenokee]

Trying to remember, I think they call it a float when you go out to sea with the fleet for a duration. The purpose of a float is to go out and sail around in circles for a while, then return to the home port, so when it's done you haven't moved anyone anywhere.

When the individual sailors get orders to move to a different port, they buy a plane ticket and get reimbursed.

[heydaralon]

Trying to remember, I think they call it a float when you go out to sea with the fleet for a duration. The purpose of a float is to go out and sail around in circles for a while, then return to the home port, so when it's done you haven't moved anyone anywhere.

When the individual sailors get orders to move to a different port, they buy a plane ticket and get reimbursed.

Damn. I did not know that.

[TheReal_ND]

Navy and Air Force probably wear civies at the airport. They are pretty lax. Not grunts. Grunts have to be reminded they are grunts.