Europe, Boring Until it's Not

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Penner » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:40 am

Montegriffo wrote:
ssu wrote:
Haumana wrote:

:awaiting rebuttal from Monty:

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Haven't people noticed the reason for this? The answer is this positive news:
New York City Murder Rate on Pace to Drop to 1950s Levels

(Wall Street Journal, 27.12.2017)New York City is on track to close the year with the fewest murders since Elvis Presley appeared on “The Ed Sullivan Show.”

The New York Police Department has recorded 284 murders so far in 2017, putting the city on pace to finish the year with fewer than 300 murders for the first time since the 1950s. Murders in 2017 are down from 329 at the same point last year and 2,245 in 1990—the highest recorded number of murders by the NYPD.

Officials have credited the decline to the department’s data-driven approach of targeting the worst offenders in the city, centered on the crime-tracking system known as CompStat, as well as improved community relations and better utilization of technology. The NYPD also has the most officers of any department in the U.S., with 36,000 members.

“I’ve been going to CompStat since 1996 and to have a year like we had last year in 2016 was pretty amazing,” NYPD Commissioner James O’Neill said at a crime-statistics briefing earlier this month. “What we’re doing this year—continuing that trend and making those decreases go even deeper—is really nothing short of amazing.”

Overall major crime, which includes murders, rape, robbery, felony assaults, burglary, grand larceny and grand larceny of vehicles, so far this year is on pace to finish under 100,000—also the lowest since the 1950s, according to crime data updated on Sunday. Police have recorded 94,806 major felonies so far this year—a little more than half of the roughly 184,000 in 2000.
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No no no, this is a story about Jihadis turning London into the new Caliphate. Get out of here with your good news stories.
I thought it was a pro-gun message?
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by ssu » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:44 am

Penner wrote: I thought it was a pro-gun message?
Ever looked at New York gun laws?

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Penner » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:14 am

ssu wrote:
Penner wrote: I thought it was a pro-gun message?
Ever looked at New York gun laws?
True they are strict compared to states like Texas.
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Post by C-Mag » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:16 am

Penner wrote:
ssu wrote:
Penner wrote: I thought it was a pro-gun message?
Ever looked at New York gun laws?
True they are strict compared to states like Texas.
London is even stricter.................... in theory, there should never be a gun crime in London.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Penner » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:32 am

C-Mag wrote:
Penner wrote:
ssu wrote: Ever looked at New York gun laws?
True they are strict compared to states like Texas.
London is even stricter.................... in theory, there should never be a gun crime in London.
At best the gun stats are like 50-60 people die from gun-related death in a population that is like 50+ million.
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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:34 am

Penner wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Penner wrote:
True they are strict compared to states like Texas.
London is even stricter.................... in theory, there should never be a gun crime in London.
At best the gun stats are like 50-60 people die from gun-related death in a population that is like 50+ million.

The vast majority of gun deaths in America are suicides. UK is not free of suicides. People just take pills, jump off bridges, or these days probably just ask the socialized health care system to off them.

Of our remaining gun homicides, consider most of those are blacks and Hispanics killing each other. Africans like to kill each other no matter what the laws say, hence this London stat.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by ssu » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:09 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Africans like to kill each other no matter what the laws say, hence this London stat.
Except in Africa. Few countries like Morocco and Tunisia have lower murder rates at least in statistics than the US. Quite many African countries have actually lower homicide rates than blacks in the US.

Of course, these statistics are a bit hilarious when you come to countries like Syria or Yemen. Yeah, not a high homicide rate as people killed in war aren't counted as homicides.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Otern » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:17 pm

ssu wrote: Haven't people noticed the reason for this? The answer is this positive news:
Yup. That's the real issue here. They've probably taken the lessons from this study, or something like it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunedin_M ... ment_Study

Basically, 20% of criminals do 80% of the crimes. And of those 20%, there's another 20% doing 80% of the 80%. So, by identifying, and taking measures against the criminals doing the most, one is able to drastically reduce overall levels of crime. That is of course if those 20% can be distinguished from the other 80%, and be taken measures against.

If one has a limited set of resources, it makes sense to spend 50% or more on targeting the 20%, rather than evenly distributed among all criminals.

Let's say you have resources to remove 30% of the criminals. Old approach would be to evenly distribute the effort among all criminals. You'll get 30% of the 20%ers, and 30% of the 80%ers. Overall reduction of crime would be 30%.
But, if you instead spend 50% of resources on the 20%ers, and 50% on the 80%ers, rather than proportionally, you'd end up with an overall reduction of crime by 63.75%. So, by applying a Pareto analysis to crime fighting, one could drastically reduce crime, without spending more resources. And it could probably be optimalized better, because the 50% distribution is not the best even(but it's all I bother to do to prove a point today). I don't know if they actually did this in New York, but the concept of going after the criminals that do MOST of the crime, sounds awfully lot like a Pareto distribution approach to a problem.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:51 pm

ssu wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Africans like to kill each other no matter what the laws say, hence this London stat.
Except in Africa. Few countries like Morocco and Tunisia have lower murder rates at least in statistics than the US. Quite many African countries have actually lower homicide rates than blacks in the US.

Of course, these statistics are a bit hilarious when you come to countries like Syria or Yemen. Yeah, not a high homicide rate as people killed in war aren't counted as homicides.

I don't mean geographic areas.

People killed in war do count as homicides.

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Re: Europe, Boring Until it's Not

Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:21 pm



The United Kingdom is in a pretty terrible position. The mayor of London shits in the streets, moslems are akbaring everywhere, and if you are found guilty of a thought crime you get tossed in the pit.

They’re even throwing foreign whites in the pit for thought crimes now.

This is Murdoch Murdoch’s take on the matter.