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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Hastur » Tue May 05, 2020 10:36 am

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Colds are Rhinovirus

Actually, “cold” is a tough word to pin down; after reading about Corona virus, it is a lot of colds.
80% of common cold cases are by Rhino. 15% are caused by human Corona viruses.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Martin Hash » Tue May 05, 2020 10:37 am

Most deaths attributed to flu are actually pneumonia. Has anybody seen if COVID19 is similarity reported?
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Hastur » Tue May 05, 2020 10:41 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 10:37 am
Most deaths attributed to flu are actually pneumonia. Has anybody seen if COVID19 is similarity reported?
80% of add revenue during news broadcast is from pharma. Influenza vaccine is big business.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by DBTrek » Tue May 05, 2020 10:42 am

Well ... where's that vaccine guys?
No business without a product.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Tue May 05, 2020 10:43 am

Martin Hash wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 10:37 am
Most deaths attributed to flu are actually pneumonia. Has anybody seen if COVID19 is similarity reported?
I have heard that the CDC is asking deaths to be coded as COVID deaths if any symptoms of COVID are present, which includes fever. As I understand it, a fever is pretty common when you die.

This was anecdotal from a friend who has a sister-in-law that is a nurse, and I have been unable to verify it.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Hastur » Tue May 05, 2020 10:45 am

DBTrek wrote:
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Well ... where's that vaccine guys?
No business without a product.
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I was referring to the yearly influenza vaccine. Always accompanied by a lot of reporting and scare propaganda.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Martin Hash » Tue May 05, 2020 10:50 am

I'm trying to get past the obscuration by detail to what's actually happening with COVID19. I'm thinking that all respiratory "virus" deaths are actually caused by pneumonia. Whopping Cough is a respiratory bacteria that has a vaccine. Corona viruses do not. Neither do Rhinoviruses. Paninfluenza viruses have a partial vaccine of questionable efficacy. There are no drugs that cure any of this stuff.

If we can't make a vaccine or a drug, and the spread is going to be like any virus, with or without lockdown, and the virus is going to go away on its own, and the "flattening of the curve" is bullshit, then back to work, guys.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by DBTrek » Tue May 05, 2020 10:50 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 10:43 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 10:37 am
Most deaths attributed to flu are actually pneumonia. Has anybody seen if COVID19 is similarity reported?
I have heard that the CDC is asking deaths to be coded as COVID deaths if any symptoms of COVID are present, which includes fever. As I understand it, a fever is pretty common when you die.

This was anecdotal from a friend who has a sister-in-law that is a nurse, and I have been unable to verify it.
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You been able to verify yet?

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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Martin Hash » Tue May 05, 2020 10:51 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 10:43 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 10:37 am
Most deaths attributed to flu are actually pneumonia. Has anybody seen if COVID19 is similarity reported?
I have heard that the CDC is asking deaths to be coded as COVID deaths if any symptoms of COVID are present, which includes fever. As I understand it, a fever is pretty common when you die.

This was anecdotal from a friend who has a sister-in-law that is a nurse, and I have been unable to verify it.
That seems very plausible.
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Re: Coronavirus thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue May 05, 2020 10:54 am

According to that Scientific American article, we really only have a few thousand deaths from influenza each year on average and, like Martin said, they were pretty much all pneumonia which arguably could be bacterial secondary infections at least part of the time. Those huge numbers the CDC prints are bullshit statistics where they try to claim they must have had 3-4 times as many deaths as were recorded but somehow weren't recorded.

So if you used the same kind of statistics for covid deaths, you'd probably be well over the 150-200k fatality mark by now.

Basically, all the CDC's lying bit us in the ass. So they actual covid deaths just exceeded 60k today and people are like "that's just a bad flu season". Well, no. Actually it's at least six times worse than a bad flu season, and if you infected as many people with covid as get infected with the flu it probably would be millions of fatalities right now because we have no viable treatment.

They basically invent huge influenza stats to scare people into getting vaccines each year, similar to how they lied about masks not being effective because they didn't want Americans buying them when they fucked up and forgot to stockpile them. The lying and the bad math really has to stop.