MHF Democrat Primary Poll

[Speaker to Animals]

Adios, Joe.

The REALLY really crazy shit is just getting started.



That originated with a comment on a piece by NYT helping to lay the groundwork.

They really did roll out hard for Warren just over the past few days. It's such a farce, but hilarious.

[StCapps]

People said no one was paying attention when Romney was the frontrunner and that he had a low ceiling, but the truth was his opponents didn't stand much of a chance, it wasn't just too early and he had a high floor, Biden is no different.

[Speaker to Animals]

If this were 2012 all over again, for the past three plus months Palin (I think that should say Perry, but can't remember for sure) and Huckabee would have been the front-runners. Then Romney started to rise up out of nowhere to take the lead.

Worst possible example you could have used to defend your case. Just fucking awful.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's the TV Narrative. That's what I am calling it at this point. People confuse the story spun up by television news actors with reality.

[StCapps]

If this were 2012 all over again, for the past three plus months Palin (I think that should say Perry, but can't remember for sure) and Huckabee would have been the front-runners. Then Romney started to rise up out of nowhere to take the lead.

Worst possible example you could have used to defend your case. Just fucking awful.

At this point in the race in 2012, Romney was the frontrunner.
At this point in the race in 2016 Trump was the frontrunner.
At this point in the race in 2016, Clinton was the frontrunner.
The last three frontrunners at this point all won the nomination.

So much for your no one is paying attention theory, the frontrunner at this point matters, it's no guarantee, but to just to hand wave it away as irrelevant is asinine.

Obama took a while to become the frontrunner in 2008, but he's the obvious outlier, and there is no Obama in 2020, so clinging to that kind of outlier, is just foolish.

John Kerry became the frontrunner just before Iowa as Howard Dean blew himself up, so that's one of the last five frontrunners who isn't an obvious outlier, 20% odds of taking down the frontrunner without an Obama type running ain't that great.

[Speaker to Animals]

Elizabeth Warren has overtaken Joe Biden as favorite to win the Democratic Party's 2020 primary, according to a leading British bookmaker. Biden, a former U.S. vice president and senator for Delaware, is leading the polls, but has generated headlines recently for repeated gaffes, a foible of his.

https://www.newsweek.com/elizabeth-warr ... ry-1454706

[StCapps]

Elizabeth Warren has overtaken Joe Biden as favorite to win the Democratic Party's 2020 primary, according to a leading British bookmaker. Biden, a former U.S. vice president and senator for Delaware, is leading the polls, but has generated headlines recently for repeated gaffes, a foible of his.

https://www.newsweek.com/elizabeth-warr ... ry-1454706

I'm aware she's the slight betting favorite, the line sucks though. None of his recent gaffes have hurt his chances at all, bookmakers are jumping the gun, just like you, except you jumped the gun before everyone, trying to be edgy.

Maybe Elizabeth Warren is John Kerry, but it's more likely that Joe Biden is Mitt Romney.

[Speaker to Animals]

This has been you this entire thread:




Joe Biden was a placeholder the MSM used to fill a narrative role until they figured out whether to back Harris or Warren for the establishment pick.

Now they are going to pull the knives out for Bernie since he shares his core base with Warren. Either Warren or Sanders has to drop out.

Assuming the poll numbers reflect anything remotely like reality as you believe, you still end up combining the Sanders and Warren numbers as soon as one drops out So even if one does idiotically believe polls are anything but propaganda and wonkish masturbation, there is no win for Biden.

And, if like me, you realize these poll numbers are fucking worthless, you have just use your eyes and ears. Literally NOBODY I have talked to in the Asheville area supports that guy. Most Democrats are not even aware of who is running yet. Of the ones that do pay attention this early, almost all of those people are hard core Bernie supporters.

Bernie supporters have not stopped campaigning for him. It has been nonstop Bernie stickers and apparel since 2016. They never stopped, dude. MAGA dudes gave up like two years ago. I used to see Trump flags everywhere in the areas surrounding Asheville and Bernie
signaling all over the city.

Instead of being an ass all the time, try listening to what people tell you. There is no fucking way you get an accurate reading on what is happening in the heart of America up in Canada.

[Hastur]

She would be the first Native American president. Just think what that would mean for their community. Just like Obama was great for the ADOS.

[Speaker to Animals]

And I am still here pointing out one very real possible outcome: the ability of the MSM to shape the democratic primary outcome could be as ineffectual as their ability to shape the republican primary outcome.

The libs get it, dude. They just don't want to admit to being manipulated. There is no way the average American saw the deep.state and MSM blow their load over the past few years, and it all turn up nada, and that person not realizing it is a sham.

The average democrat wants that Bernie Sanders bullshit. The MSM is trying to sell them a Warren.

Warren can only win insomuch as she separates herself at least visually from the establishment, which is going to be hard to do when the MSM is obviously in the tank for her but not for Bernie