Jesus Christ, do you even read?Speaker to Animals wrote:Yeah, it was just a huge coincidence. He was only vacationing in Afghanistan when all this happened. Lots of Britons spent months embedded with AQ fighters in Afghanistan..
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Imprisoned by the Taliban equals embedded with AQ fighters. OK
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He dindu nuffin!
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Just in case you suddenly learn the value of reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamal_Udeen_Al-HarithAfter some time back in Manchester, in 2002 Al-Harith travelled to Pakistan for a backpacking trip. While there, he paid a truck driver to take him to Iran. The truck was stopped when he passed near the Afghan border. Taliban guards, seeing his British passport, arrested him as a British spy, which was typical of their treatment of foreigners.American troops discovered Al-Harith among numerous foreigners held by the Taliban in jail in Kandahar and released him. He was being aided by the Red Cross to make arrangements to return to Britain. They enabled him to call his family in Britain, whom he told he would be soon flying home. The Red Cross had arranged with the British embassy to fly him out from the American airbase to Kabul to meet the British representative.
Al-Harith was detained in Kabul by US forces who found his explanations regarding the purpose of his travels in the region to be implausible. He was arrested as a suspected enemy combatant and transported to Guantanamo Bay detention camp, where he was one of nine British citizens held as detainees. He was interviewed by representatives of MI5 and the British Foreign Office, as well as by US officials, and provided interrogators with useful information about the Taliban's methods.[6] The United States notified the Australian government of Al-Harith's detention because he had recently been in the country. The ASIO carried out an investigation of his activities while in the Australia and concluded that he had not constituted a security risk.[1] After being held for two years, during which he claimed to have experienced "cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment",[1] he was released without charge.[1]
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Yeah. Of course. I remember back in 2002, I went on a backpacking vacation through the Khyber Pass and hung out with Taliban too. Totally normal.
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It doesn't matter whether that's true or not. He was arrested on sight, as a British national, and put into an Iraqi prison for 2 years. Go watch Midnight Express, and tell me how cozy that was.Speaker to Animals wrote:Yeah. Of course. I remember back in 2002, I went on a backpacking vacation through the Khyber Pass and hung out with Taliban too. Totally normal.
Then, after the US wipes the floor with Sadaam, and closes his torture palaces, the guy gets shipped off to Guantanamo for having the wrong story, where he's kept for years more, without charge then released. What kind of life do you think he had after that? It's enough to make anyone lose their minds.
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Funny how MI5 and Australian intelligence considered him to have been no security threat after investigating his case.
From a 2004 article,
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/ ... m=storyrhs
From a 2004 article,
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/ ... m=storyrhs
Born Ronald Fiddler to Jamaican parents, Mr Harith was a website designer living in Manchester who converted to Islam about a decade ago.
It is believed that he travelled to Australia in early 2000 after striking up an internet romance with Samantha Cook, staying with her in Perth for several months.
He returned to Manchester before travelling to Pakistan in early 2002.
A spokesman for Attorney-General Philip Ruddock confirmed that Mr Harith spent several months in Perth. When he arrived, he was not on any alert list and "he wasn't considered at that time a security risk", the spokesman said.
ASIO began its investigation after being notified by US authorities. "He is not considered to be a security risk now," Mr Ruddock's spokesman said
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Funny how he turned out to be a terrorist anyway..
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Speaker to Animals wrote:Funny how he turned out to be a terrorist anyway..
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So guy converts to Islam and travels to Afghanistan in 2002 to fight with the Taliban and AQ. They decide he is a spy in their midst and lock him up. We capture the prison and send him to Gitmo because he was in fact embedded with enemy combatants. He gets released and the British government takes gives him a million pounds to start over. He ends up in Syria where he blows himself up for ISIS. You think none of that is his fault. He's the victim here.
You have taken dindu nuffin to a new level. Congratulations.
You have taken dindu nuffin to a new level. Congratulations.