The Left Does not Reason

[LVH2]

Digging holes is kinda a strawman.

Hash would pay you to do things like take classes

[Speaker to Animals]

Digging holes is kinda a strawman.

Hash would pay you to do things like take classes

No. He literally said digging holes.

[Okeefenokee]

The difference is the value placed on working folks.

[KerningChameleon]

Digging holes is kinda a strawman.

Hash would pay you to do things like take classes

No. He literally said digging holes.

Who would have thought the 21st Century New Deal government jobs program would draw inspiration from a children's novel.

Here's your TrumpTM Spade. Now get to work Making America Pitted Again.

[Speaker to Animals]

I'd rather we build spaceships.

[jbird4049]

Except you no longer have the option for free healthcare or the chance to be paid by the govt to care for your own. So not like the US at all.

I think we have a communication failure here.

Here in the States, we don't get paid to take care of our relatives, people are often homeless even when working full time, in Ultra Blue California even after Obamacare, when the state upgraded Medi-Cal/Medicaid there problems.

I don't want to think about what some Red States are like.

[jbird4049]

What would the world be like today if the U.S. had said, "we'll take them Jews?"

I guess the Nazis would still have wound up killing a bunch of people, but maybe not at nearly the same level.

Also, maybe no Israel and a much more peaceful middle east?

In the number of deaths, maybe not. If there hadn't been Jews available, there were others. It's boggling, but the Jews were just a small percentage of the extermination list. Even in the concentration and, extermination camps, the death squads, the Jews were only about half of the dead. They were notable because they really really were determined to kill all the Jews who probably suffered the largest percentage lost.

The Nazi master plan was to ultimately not only exterminate all European Jews, but also all Gypsies, all mental "defectives", all Slavs West of the Ural Mountains, (basically most Eastern Europeans eventually) There were plans to keep just uneducated slave labor for farm work, and which explains why they immediately started to kill all scientists, teachers, doctors, lawyers, priests, even writers, anyone with above a high school graduate. Starting at the top and working there way down.


The mentality defective definition became very expansive. The original program involved sterilization, but money is expensive. They started to murder the most disabled and found reasons to expand. If you were hospital for any mental illness, you would were a target. They extermination program would send false death certificates, and letters, to relatives, or others who would make a fuss. Doctors that complain would be moved, or lied too. Many of the techniques used in their be Final Solution, were first tried out in the earlier extermination. Mind you, from what I remember the program was never as final as the Nazis wanted. Between family, friends, churches, some doctors/nurses even a few politicians, the program after its initial success, was slowed. Stopped in a few places. I should read up on it again, but it awfully depressing.

[TheReal_ND]

Jews were just a small percentage of the extermination list. Even in the concentration and, extermination

You don't know what you are talking about.


https://www.google.com/amp/www.jta.org/ ... orians/amp

WASHINGTON (JTA) — “Five million non-Jews died in the Holocaust.”

It’s a statement that shows up regularly in declarations about the Nazi era. It was implied in a Facebook post by the Israel Defense Forces’ spokesperson’s unit last week marking International Holocaust Remembrance Day. And it was asserted in an article shared by the Trump White House in defense of its controversial Holocaust statement the same day omitting references to the 6 million Jewish victims.

It is, however, a number without any scholarly basis.

Indeed, say those close to the late Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal, its progenitor, it is a number that was intended to increase sympathy for Jewish suffering but which now is more often used to obscure it.

[C-Mag]

Progressive Ideology does not believe in Natural Rights. Science and evolution are the foundations of the Political Theory. It is the State that gives Rights, and therefore can take them away. The uniqueness of the Classic Liberal Ideology is that all people have Inalienable Right that no one, nor any government can take from them.

You have lost me here... What is your source here for "Progressive ideology"? I am simply speaking from my own experience as a "progressive"... in other words I have voted for parties on the left of the Canadian spectrum, and am a supporter of the Canadian medical system etc. I believe in due process and basic inalienable rights.

Here's a reference, there are more out there http://www.nlnrac.org/critics/american-progressivism
In the US what you most often hear is the US Constitution needs to be a living document, etc. But the key feature to the US Constitution is that a persons rights are granted by a higher power, God in the drafters verbage. That these rights, therefore cannot be taken away or infringed by man or government.

In Progressivism, the Government takes over power of rights.

[Martin Hash]

The Constitution never mentions God, you're thinking of the Declaration of Independence, which is NOT a legal document. Just because some dead guy wrote something does not make it so. I'd kick ol' Jefferson's or Madison's ass in a debate, even though I think those guys were awesome.