Meanwhile in Ukraine

[C-Mag]

Shocked. Just shocked. We handed a pack of ex-Soviets $100B to be cannon fodder, and they spent it on themselves. Fucking idiocy.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... s-mansions

Machievelia was a nice guy next to these monsters.

Western weapons have not been the boon the puppets claim. Now the US is scouring the world for old Soviet equipment, tanks in particular that the Ukraines can operate without a minimum 6 months training on new equipment.

The Russians will now have to destroy old Soviet equipment from Africa and South America. You can imagine what condition those T64s or T72s might be in.

I expect another year like the last.

[TheOneX]

Shocked. Just shocked. We handed a pack of ex-Soviets $100B to be cannon fodder, and they spent it on themselves. Fucking idiocy.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... s-mansions

Ukraine was considered to be very corrupt before the war, this should surprise no one.

[SuburbanFarmer]

So germanys foreign minister technically declared war on Russia today. Just another Wednesday.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... ud-ukraine

Baerbock said the quiet part out loud, and introduced the comments with: "And therefore I’ve said already in the last days – yes, we have to do more to defend Ukraine. Yes, we have to do more also on tanks."

And that's when she asserted: "But the most important and the crucial part is that we do it together and that we do not do the blame game in Europe, because we are fighting a war against Russia and not against each other.”

[Martin Hash]

This proxy war is totally evil. 100s of 1000s, perhaps millions of Ukrainians, would be alive today if Ukraine had simply capitulated, and who knows how many 100s of 1000s are still going to die before their inevitable defeat? Let's be clear, no other nation is going to send troops to die in a half-committed conflict. Unless total war is declared on the Russian homeland by NATO, every life lost is on NATO's head, and if such a war is declared than plan on 100s of millions dying.

What the fuck do the warmongers think is going to happen? Are they so delusional to think Russia will be defeated without massive casualties? It could be simple perversity to reduce the world's population for the climate changers?

[SuburbanFarmer]

This proxy war is totally evil. 100s of 1000s, perhaps millions of Ukrainians, would be alive today if Ukraine had simply capitulated, and who knows how many 100s of 1000s are still going to die before their inevitable defeat? Let's be clear, no other nation is going to send troops to die in a half-committed conflict. Unless total war is declared on the Russian homeland by NATO, every life lost is on NATO's head, and if such a war is declared than plan on 100s of millions dying.

What the fuck do the warmongers think is going to happen? Are they so delusional to think Russia will be defeated without massive casualties? It could be simple perversity to reduce the world's population for the climate changers?

Rumor has it that 70+% of Americans are against this shitshow, but it doesn’t matter. Neither do votes.

[C-Mag]

This proxy war is totally evil. 100s of 1000s, perhaps millions of Ukrainians, would be alive today if Ukraine had simply capitulated, and who knows how many 100s of 1000s are still going to die before their inevitable defeat? Let's be clear, no other nation is going to send troops to die in a half-committed conflict. Unless total war is declared on the Russian homeland by NATO, every life lost is on NATO's head, and if such a war is declared than plan on 100s of millions dying.

What the fuck do the warmongers think is going to happen? Are they so delusional to think Russia will be defeated without massive casualties? It could be simple perversity to reduce the world's population for the climate changers?

I agree Boss.

Ukraine didn't even need to capitulate, all they had to do was pledge Neutrality and no NATO membership.
That's all, they could have carved out a Slavic Swiss Trade Empire on the Black Sea and been rich as fuck.

[C-Mag]

Rumor has it that 70+% of Americans are against this shitshow, but it doesn’t matter. Neither do votes.

I believe it, we are held in Collective Illusion by the loudest voices and blue/gold avatars.

[SuburbanFarmer]

We just gave them tanks. Now they want f-16s. This is insanity.

[The Conservative]

We just gave them tanks. Now they want f-16s. This is insanity.

This is Best Biden Practices. Better known as Scorched Earth.

[C-Mag]

An outstanding article inside the wide variety of problems of trying to use Western Tanks in the Ukraine.
https://journal-neo.org/2023/01/17/the- ... n-ukraine/

if Ukraine’s hundreds of Soviet-era tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and armored personnel carriers failed to achieve favorable outcomes for Kiev, it is unlikely replacing these systems with Western hardware will make any difference.

The logistics of supporting all these different types of tanks would be hard for the US to pull off. The various cheeleaders against Russia have no understanding of the complexities of keeping Armor running in the field.

The temptation to put NATO maintenance troops in Ukraine itself is going to be high.