Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:41 am

So you are basing your opinion upon what the IC tells you..

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by kybkh » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:43 am

If Trump stops here, he can hold on to the Paul-bots.

If he lets the media pressure him in to a "No Fly Zone" it would be a knife in the back to the America 1sters.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by DBTrek » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:44 am

Why did Assad "give up" his chemical weapons again?
The government of Mr. Assad, who renounced chemical weapons nearly four years ago after a large chemical attack that American intelligence agencies concluded was carried out by his forces, denied that his military had been responsible, as he has done every time chemical munitions have been used in Syria.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/worl ... .html?_r=0

Ah yeah, now I remember.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:47 am

It's fucking bizarre that the people who are so convinced Assad did this -- with no evidence -- are the ones telling people that they operate without facts, who tell them other possibilities are just as likely (or more so).

Dude, I have no idea who did it. I am pointing out that it makes no rational sense for the Assad regime to do this. They gave up those munitions. And it has been the rebels who for years have been launching chemical weapons against people.

It seems a lot more likely to me that a Syrian or Russian aircraft hit an ammunition dump that happened to store chlorine gas (or even sarin) without knowing those munitions were stored there. It's certainly more likely than the possibility that Assad, now winning the civil war, would choose to throw it all away by launching an ineffective chemical weapon at people for no strategic or political gain whatsoever.

Until I see substantive evidence of who is right and who is wrong, I don't support this stupid bullshit. This is what created the Syrian conflict in the first place.

And I find it risible that some of you are now pounding the drums of war over a chemical weapons attack you believe was made by Assad while the people who were allegedly attacked with chemical weapons have themselves been launching chemical weapons attacks for years with no response from you.

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by BjornP » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:50 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
And..

Maybe Assad just decided he wants to go out like Saddam..
You mean the Saddam who used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds in 1988 and who didn't die untill 2003? Everyone can be rehabilited by the Western governments, just look at Gaddafi.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by K@th » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:52 am

Lol

The country gave Mr. Trump a shiny new toy for Christmas and you thought he wasn't going to play with it? You thought he wanted to increase military spending, why? Silly heads.

BTW - I support his decision to do this and I'm happy to see some bi-partisanship in the Senate again. From two directions, even. You have democrats applauding the bombing and republicans telling him to get his ass to Congress if he wants to keep going. That's a bit of sunshine in what has been a pretty dark couple of months.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by DBTrek » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:53 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:It's fucking bizarre that the people who are so convinced Assad did this -- with no evidence --
So we've gone from "only youtube videos" to no evidence now, eh?
That's your cognitive dissonance pushing you further toward denial - when you ignore or minimize facts, and then shift to denying any facts exist at all.
And I find it risible that some of you are now pounding the drums of war over a chemical weapons attack you believe was made by Assad while the people who were allegedly attacked with chemical weapons have themselves been launching chemical weapons attacks for years with no response from you.
Not pounding the drums of war. Pounding the heads of derp-monkeys who have gone into frantic overdrive in their ignorance dissemination crusade.

Not interested in war.
I voted for the guy who had no concept of Aleppo, much less intentions to blast it.
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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:56 am

DBTrek wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:It's fucking bizarre that the people who are so convinced Assad did this -- with no evidence --
So we've gone from "only youtube videos" to no evidence now, eh?
That's your cognitive dissonance pushing you further toward denial - when you ignore or minimize facts, and then shift to denying any facts exist at all.
And I find it risible that some of you are now pounding the drums of war over a chemical weapons attack you believe was made by Assad while the people who were allegedly attacked with chemical weapons have themselves been launching chemical weapons attacks for years with no response from you.
Not pounding the drums of war. Pounding the heads of derp-monkeys who have gone into frantic overdrive in their ignorance dissemination crusade.

Not interested in war.
I voted for the guy who had no concept of Aleppo, much less intentions to blast it.

Oh for fuck sake.

You think a youtube video is proof positive of anything?

Get out of here with that.

Show me the evidence. It's extremely difficult to figure out who did what in this conflict, and most of these video productions we are getting from rebel-affiliated groups are fake.

Remember the fake chemical weapons attack they staged and BBC and CNN were trying to promulgate to drum up war?

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Re: Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

Post by apeman » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:56 am

Kath wrote: I'm happy to see some bi-partisanship in the Senate again.
When McCain, Graham and Schumer all praise something, you know it is great.