Poking the Bear Again
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the Biden Administration has announced that US entities will be blocked from buying Russian state bonds
this is typically Neoliberalist, they show weakness militarily but then try to attack with financial weapons
the result would only be to punish the Russian people
this idea in the Neoliberal mind is that you punish the people, then they overthrow their government
but the actual result is that the populations tend to blame foreign intervention
causing them to rally around their government all the more
never mind that if you destabilize Russia somehow in the end, that's like every other regime change
it always turns out to be a quagmire which blows up in America face
but this one would blow up with 7,000 thermonuclear warheads in play
this is typically Neoliberalist, they show weakness militarily but then try to attack with financial weapons
the result would only be to punish the Russian people
this idea in the Neoliberal mind is that you punish the people, then they overthrow their government
but the actual result is that the populations tend to blame foreign intervention
causing them to rally around their government all the more
never mind that if you destabilize Russia somehow in the end, that's like every other regime change
it always turns out to be a quagmire which blows up in America face
but this one would blow up with 7,000 thermonuclear warheads in play
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near as I can tell there are two Neoconservative factions in the Biden Administration vying for control
one I will call the Russia Hawks
that's Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland & Lloyd Austin at State & Defense
they want a confrontation with Putin in Ukraine with NATO over the Black Sea
the other faction I will call the China Hawks
that's National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan & Director of Central Intelligence William Burns
they want a ceasefire with Russia so America can shift to confronting China in the Western Pacific
things are therefor lurching back and forth between these two priorities incoherently at this juncture
one day Biden is calling Putin for a summit and standing down in the Black Sea
the next day Biden blows his own summit up with Putin by imposing sanctions & expelling Russian diplomats
one I will call the Russia Hawks
that's Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland & Lloyd Austin at State & Defense
they want a confrontation with Putin in Ukraine with NATO over the Black Sea
the other faction I will call the China Hawks
that's National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan & Director of Central Intelligence William Burns
they want a ceasefire with Russia so America can shift to confronting China in the Western Pacific
things are therefor lurching back and forth between these two priorities incoherently at this juncture
one day Biden is calling Putin for a summit and standing down in the Black Sea
the next day Biden blows his own summit up with Putin by imposing sanctions & expelling Russian diplomats
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Carrot and stick.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:09 pmnear as I can tell there are two Neoconservative factions in the Biden Administration vying for control
one I will call the Russia Hawks
that's Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland & Lloyd Austin at State & Defense
they want a confrontation with Putin in Ukraine with NATO over the Black Sea
the other faction I will call the China Hawks
that's National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan & Director of Central Intelligence William Burns
they want a ceasefire with Russia so America can shift to confronting China in the Western Pacific
things are therefor lurching back and forth between these two priorities incoherently at this juncture
one day Biden is calling Putin for a summit and standing down in the Black Sea
the next day Biden blows his own summit up with Putin by imposing sanctions & expelling Russian diplomats
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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not really, the Germans already gave the Russians the carrot of the Nordstream 2 pipelineMontegriffo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:15 pmCarrot and stick.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:09 pmnear as I can tell there are two Neoconservative factions in the Biden Administration vying for control
one I will call the Russia Hawks
that's Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland & Lloyd Austin at State & Defense
they want a confrontation with Putin in Ukraine with NATO over the Black Sea
the other faction I will call the China Hawks
that's National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan & Director of Central Intelligence William Burns
they want a ceasefire with Russia so America can shift to confronting China in the Western Pacific
things are therefor lurching back and forth between these two priorities incoherently at this juncture
one day Biden is calling Putin for a summit and standing down in the Black Sea
the next day Biden blows his own summit up with Putin by imposing sanctions & expelling Russian diplomats
Germany is feeding the Russian beast far more than sanctions are hurting
with massive petroleum revenue coming from the EU, NATO is effectively funding its own adversary
again, Biden called a summit, then the very next day did something which would obviously blow that summit up
incoherent on the face of it, reversing course within twenty four hours
it's not carrot & stick, it's running away while shooting over your shoulder
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The offer of a summit didn't get the required result, hence the stick.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:18 pmnot really, the Germans already gave the Russians the carrot of the Nordstream 2 pipelineMontegriffo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:15 pmCarrot and stick.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:09 pmnear as I can tell there are two Neoconservative factions in the Biden Administration vying for control
one I will call the Russia Hawks
that's Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland & Lloyd Austin at State & Defense
they want a confrontation with Putin in Ukraine with NATO over the Black Sea
the other faction I will call the China Hawks
that's National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan & Director of Central Intelligence William Burns
they want a ceasefire with Russia so America can shift to confronting China in the Western Pacific
things are therefor lurching back and forth between these two priorities incoherently at this juncture
one day Biden is calling Putin for a summit and standing down in the Black Sea
the next day Biden blows his own summit up with Putin by imposing sanctions & expelling Russian diplomats
Germany is feeding the Russian beast far more than sanctions are hurting
with massive petroleum revenue coming from the EU, NATO is effectively funding its own adversary
again, Biden called a summit, then the very next day did something which would obviously blow that summit up
incoherent on the face of it, reversing course within twenty four hours
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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there was no time to even determine that it didn't get a result, hence the incoherenceMontegriffo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:23 pmThe offer of a summit didn't get the required result, hence the stick.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:18 pmnot really, the Germans already gave the Russians the carrot of the Nordstream 2 pipeline
Germany is feeding the Russian beast far more than sanctions are hurting
with massive petroleum revenue coming from the EU, NATO is effectively funding its own adversary
again, Biden called a summit, then the very next day did something which would obviously blow that summit up
incoherent on the face of it, reversing course within twenty four hours
they effectively reversed course literally overnight before any result would be knowable
the signs of factions pulling the POTUS back & forth is glaring
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the Russia Hawks have Turkey, Poland & Ukraine gung-ho to confront Russia
well, not the Ukrainian population, but Zelensky is below 30% approval, so he needs something to rally around
the China Hawks side with Britain, France & Germany who all think Ukraine is trying to drag NATO into the fight
the UK is joining with the China Hawks, deploying the RN carrier strike task force to the Pacific
France is deploying SSN's to the Pacific as well
well, not the Ukrainian population, but Zelensky is below 30% approval, so he needs something to rally around
the China Hawks side with Britain, France & Germany who all think Ukraine is trying to drag NATO into the fight
the UK is joining with the China Hawks, deploying the RN carrier strike task force to the Pacific
France is deploying SSN's to the Pacific as well
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on one day the White House narrative was that two DDG-51's were on their way to the Black Sea
Turkey confirmed that they were about to transit the Bosporus
then the very next day the story completely changed
suddenly the DDG-51's were going to Crete
the WH claimed that the story of transiting the Bosporus was "Russian Disinformation"
the story lurches around from hour to hour, with the WH blatantly lying about what it said just the day before
Turkey confirmed that they were about to transit the Bosporus
then the very next day the story completely changed
suddenly the DDG-51's were going to Crete
the WH claimed that the story of transiting the Bosporus was "Russian Disinformation"
the story lurches around from hour to hour, with the WH blatantly lying about what it said just the day before
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