Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:04 pm

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Person, or media that unwittingly did so?
Can't lay a charge unless you give the particulars, can't just invoke an act of attainder against "the media" writ large, that's expressly prohibited by Article 1, Section 9 of the United States Constitution.... unlesss you took it out, let me just double check...

...yeah, no, it's still in there.
So are you saying that we should not force the media to take credit for 24/7 coverage of something, that may put an idea into someone's head to attempt the same thing? Seriously?
"Putting an idea into someone's head"? What am I gonna charge people with, Thought Crime? Who am I gonna charge, just random people walking down the street for thinking shit?
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by StCapps » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:05 pm

The Conservative wrote:You may as well allow someone to yell fire in the theater then.
Not the same thing. Apples and Oranges. Yelling fire in a movie theatre is far more likely to cause harm to others than media talking smack about Trump, you are just being a baby about biased reporting, which has never not been a thing. Biased reporting isn't illegal in America and it never should be, if that were the case there would be no free press.

Unbiased reporting is a myth you repeat to yourself because it makes you feel better, it has zero to do with reality, it's media virtue signaling and inflating their sense of importance, it's just a story. Being unbiased is impossible, journalists pretending they are superhuman and can deliver unbiased reporting, does not change reality that they can't help but be biased, no matter how hard they squeeze their butt cheeks together in an attempt to make you buy that they really are these paragons of virtue that they claim to be.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by SilverEagle » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:07 pm

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No I want to kill the press the way it is today. It is no longer being unbiased, and it's main stories are more opinion pieces than fact... so if we are to believe the media rags... then we got to hold them accountable for their actions, or lack there of.
I see. I agree that the press needs to be torn down and built anew but where we differ is I think we should continue to let themselves shoot their own foot at let them die off, you want to torch the First Amendment. That's how we are different Hitler.
When our educational system rears morons and idiots because our parents at home can't or won't take their time to help educate their children in critical thinking skills, you are asking for a lot to happen, which won't as long as things keep happening like they do today.
I see what you're saying and I agree with the severe lack of critical thinking skills in our population but you're willing to sacrifice the First Amendment and I'm not. Maybe you should attempt some critical thinking yourself because torching the First Amendment...... :hand: .......I'll let you think about it.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:11 pm

The Conservative wrote:
SilverEagle wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
No I want to kill the press the way it is today. It is no longer being unbiased, and it's main stories are more opinion pieces than fact... so if we are to believe the media rags... then we got to hold them accountable for their actions, or lack there of.
I see. I agree that the press needs to be torn down and built anew but where we differ is I think we should continue to let themselves shoot their own foot at let them die off, you want to torch the First Amendment. That's how we are different Hitler.
When our educational system rears morons and idiots because our parents at home can't or won't take their time to help educate their children in critical thinking skills, you are asking for a lot to happen, which won't as long as things keep happening like they do today.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by SilverEagle » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:13 pm

GCF I think you're youtube link might be broken....or my phone is not working.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:25 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
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No I want to kill the press the way it is today. It is no longer being unbiased, and it's main stories are more opinion pieces than fact... so if we are to believe the media rags... then we got to hold them accountable for their actions, or lack there of.
Out of curiosity, is that all the media or just the left wing media? Cos there is an awful lot of opinion pieces in rags like Breitbart, Daily Express etc which is lying propaganda inciting hatred towards minorities the left etc.
If we are going to hold them all to accountability and make it illegal to print lies I might be on board, otherwise you are just showing symptoms of butthurt and a yoghurt enema might be all you need....
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:26 pm

StCapps wrote:
The Conservative wrote:You may as well allow someone to yell fire in the theater then.
Not the same thing. Apples and Oranges. Yelling fire in a movie theatre is far more likely to cause harm to others than media talking smack about Trump, you are just being a baby about biased reporting, which has never not been a thing. Biased reporting isn't illegal in America and it never should be, if that were the case there would be no free press.

Unbiased reporting is a myth you repeat to yourself because it makes you feel better, it has zero to do with reality, it's media virtue signaling and inflating their sense of importance, it's just a story. Being unbiased is impossible, journalists pretending they are superhuman and can deliver unbiased reporting, does not change reality that they can't help but be biased, no matter how hard they squeeze their butt cheeks together in an attempt to make you buy that they really are these paragons of virtue that they claim to be.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:35 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
No I want to kill the press the way it is today. It is no longer being unbiased, and it's main stories are more opinion pieces than fact... so if we are to believe the media rags... then we got to hold them accountable for their actions, or lack there of.
Out of curiosity, is that all the media or just the left wing media? Cos there is an awful lot of opinion pieces in rags like Breitbart, Daily Express etc which is lying propaganda inciting hatred towards minorities the left etc.
If we are going to hold them all to accountability and make it illegal to print lies I might be on board, otherwise you are just showing symptoms of butthurt and a yoghurt enema might be all you need....
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Ok then, now how do we do this without the suspension of the free press and state censorship? There are already laws in place to stop incitement to violence even in the ''free world of America''. Whenever I tried to support UK rules about incitement to hate I got a lot of ''thin edge of the wedge'' arguments thrown back in my face. I still don't think ''we can't do that because it might lead to this'' is a valid argument but I never supported a crime of biased reporting law like you seem to be doing.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:17 pm

The Conservative wrote:
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The Conservative wrote:So are you saying that we should not force the media to take credit for 24/7 coverage of something, that may put an idea into someone's head to attempt the same thing? Seriously?
He's saying it's not illegal for the media to do so, it's protected free speech, whether you like what they have to say or not, just fyi, Captain Pearl Clutcher.
You may as well allow someone to yell fire in the theater then.
yelling fire in a theater is bad example to use. it was literally invented to jail people for speaking against the government.

fixing the media, or forcing them to be better is the last thing in the world I want to see happen. I want them to keep it up and even double down again on their insanity. One way or another, this needs to reach a conclusion. The more ridiculous the lefts wants to get, the sooner we'll be done with them.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by clubgop » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:27 pm

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You tried to shift the focus off of the Democrats/Left and their support of political violence to overturn a free an fair election.
Just more spinning for a party he is "not" a member of.
:lol: Yeah right.
Now the shooting was organized by the Democratic Party? What a fucking shitshow.
Just like you blamed the church burnings and cemetary vandalism on trump. Turnabout is fair play, take it bitch.