Vault 7 - Happening

[The Conservative]

I'm saying (very succinctly) that our now-outdated system is completely incapable of dealing with these problems. As you mentioned, our presidents and congressmen can barely operate a computer, let alone craft effective legislation for the modern world.

Actually it's quite capable if dealing with these things, as long as you get emotional responses out of the way.

Do you see that happening any time soon? Trump's election is an emotional response.

If you get the right people in place, yes I do.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Actually it's quite capable if dealing with these things, as long as you get emotional responses out of the way.

Do you see that happening any time soon? Trump's election is an emotional response.

If you get the right people in place, yes I do.

And how does that happen in a Democracy, with an ignorant, frightened electorate, and entrenched power blocs? Just hope we start getting really, really lucky?

[The Conservative]

Do you see that happening any time soon? Trump's election is an emotional response.

If you get the right people in place, yes I do.

And how does that happen in a Democracy, with an ignorant, frightened electorate, and entrenched power blocs? Just hope we start getting really, really lucky?

How do you think I have myself at home and work so well protected? It's not because I have feelings (which I do) but because I know how to protect myself and all information under my control. The same can be said for the US government. IT is meant not to control it's population, but to protect it from enemies within and without.

It's not really that complex.

[SuburbanFarmer]

If you get the right people in place, yes I do.

And how does that happen in a Democracy, with an ignorant, frightened electorate, and entrenched power blocs? Just hope we start getting really, really lucky?

How do you think I have myself at home and work so well protected? It's not because I have feelings (which I do) but because I know how to protect myself and all information under my control. The same can be said for the US government. IT is meant not to control it's population, but to protect it from enemies within and without.

It's not really that complex.

Yes, however that is not the function that it serves any more. The population hasn't needed 'protecting' for 150ish years. They're completely incompetent at facing the actual threats to our well-being - cyber attack, climate change, corporate rule.

[The Conservative]

And how does that happen in a Democracy, with an ignorant, frightened electorate, and entrenched power blocs? Just hope we start getting really, really lucky?

How do you think I have myself at home and work so well protected? It's not because I have feelings (which I do) but because I know how to protect myself and all information under my control. The same can be said for the US government. IT is meant not to control it's population, but to protect it from enemies within and without.

It's not really that complex.

Yes, however that is not the function that it serves any more. The population hasn't needed 'protecting' for 150ish years. They're completely incompetent at facing the actual threats to our well-being - cyber attack, climate change, corporate rule.

Wow, amazing... big government can't solve it all... color me shocked.

Perhaps it needs to revert back to what it was to become functional again? That be a shock... wouldn't it?

[SuburbanFarmer]

How do you think I have myself at home and work so well protected? It's not because I have feelings (which I do) but because I know how to protect myself and all information under my control. The same can be said for the US government. IT is meant not to control it's population, but to protect it from enemies within and without.

It's not really that complex.

Yes, however that is not the function that it serves any more. The population hasn't needed 'protecting' for 150ish years. They're completely incompetent at facing the actual threats to our well-being - cyber attack, climate change, corporate rule.

Wow, amazing... big government can't solve it all... color me shocked.

Perhaps it needs to revert back to what it was to become functional again? That be a shock... wouldn't it?

Ummm sure. Slash the military budget (currently around 54% of Discretionary), and get back to me.

I'm pretty sure that the size of the government is not the topic that we were discussing.

[The Conservative]

Yes, however that is not the function that it serves any more. The population hasn't needed 'protecting' for 150ish years. They're completely incompetent at facing the actual threats to our well-being - cyber attack, climate change, corporate rule.

Wow, amazing... big government can't solve it all... color me shocked.

Perhaps it needs to revert back to what it was to become functional again? That be a shock... wouldn't it?

Ummm sure. Slash the military budget (currently around 54% of Discretionary), and get back to me.

I'm pretty sure that the size of the government is not the topic that we were discussing.

Remove the overhead of covering the over-inflated costs of health insurance, and just give people health care, and you'll have nearly a trillion a year to cover the costs of internet security.

Realistically 100 billion would suffice. The rest could go for education and infrastructure.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Wow, amazing... big government can't solve it all... color me shocked.

Perhaps it needs to revert back to what it was to become functional again? That be a shock... wouldn't it?

Ummm sure. Slash the military budget (currently around 54% of Discretionary), and get back to me.

I'm pretty sure that the size of the government is not the topic that we were discussing.

Remove the overhead of covering the over-inflated costs of health insurance, and just give people health care, and you'll have nearly a trillion a year to cover the costs of internet security.

Realistically 100 billion would suffice. The rest could go for education and infrastructure.

Sooooooooooo government stays the same size, just shuffles the chips around. Don't get me wrong, I'm for it. Just don't pretend that this is a "small government" purity virtue.

[The Conservative]

Ummm sure. Slash the military budget (currently around 54% of Discretionary), and get back to me.

I'm pretty sure that the size of the government is not the topic that we were discussing.

Remove the overhead of covering the over-inflated costs of health insurance, and just give people health care, and you'll have nearly a trillion a year to cover the costs of internet security.

Realistically 100 billion would suffice. The rest could go for education and infrastructure.

Sooooooooooo government stays the same size, just shuffles the chips around. Don't get me wrong, I'm for it. Just don't pretend that this is a "small government" purity virtue.

Actually, you remove just the part I suggest, you reduce the government by almost 20%.

You give the money to entities that already exist, it's a win-win. You make sure they spend it on the actual issue, and not overheard. (Beaurocrats)

Only a person that thinks government is the answer to everything g would expand it after shuffling money to other entities.

It's not really that difficult.

[Okeefenokee]

Do you see that happening any time soon? Trump's election is an emotional response.

If you get the right people in place, yes I do.

And how does that happen in a Democracy, with an ignorant, frightened electorate, and entrenched power blocs? Just hope we start getting really, really lucky?

voter restrictions.