THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:49 pm

Good idea. I have some stuff to do.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by ssu » Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:56 am

TheReal_ND wrote:They don't know how Assange obtained the leaks or hacks and they don't know for sure Russia was even in the DNC archive. It could have been 4chan for all they really know.
Yeah sure, it was the 400 pound guy on a bed.

CIA, NSA, DIA and the ever cautious FBI got it all wrong.

What the FBI and CIA have opposing views is are the objectives, not if Russian "active measures" in the form of hacking have been or haven't been underway here.

And forget about the democrats, as they are in opposition, there discourse is naturally the typical slander (if not as badmouthed as the Republicans would be with Hillary). It's the Republican party here what is important. Just shake this off as a consiparicy/fake news works perhaps with the Trumpists who read Breitbart and PrisonPlanet. Not so with the Republicans sitting in Congress. If enough GOP senators that doubt the issue and have problems with Tillerson, he's not going to be nominated. Trump's reaction might be typical Trump then and the incoming President's relationship with the party is off for a rocky start.

If then the outcome is that the POTUS doesn't trust his intelligence services and they are put aside as "democrat supporters", they sure will be laughing in the Kremlin.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:47 am

I will believe it when the evidence to prove the assertion is presented to me.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:10 am

So, oil man as SOS is that draining the swamp or turning it into the Everglades. I can't decide.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:26 am

He's not a politician he's a busnisman. Draining the swamp was about corruption and hiring an oil exec could go either way I guess.
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TheReal_ND wrote:They don't know how Assange obtained the leaks or hacks and they don't know for sure Russia was even in the DNC archive. It could have been 4chan for all they really know.
Yeah sure, it was the 400 pound guy on a bed.

CIA, NSA, DIA and the ever cautious FBI got it all wrong.

What the FBI and CIA have opposing views is are the objectives, not if Russian "active measures" in the form of hacking have been or haven't been underway here.

And forget about the democrats, as they are in opposition, there discourse is naturally the typical slander (if not as badmouthed as the Republicans would be with Hillary). It's the Republican party here what is important. Just shake this off as a consiparicy/fake news works perhaps with the Trumpists who read Breitbart and PrisonPlanet. Not so with the Republicans sitting in Congress. If enough GOP senators that doubt the issue and have problems with Tillerson, he's not going to be nominated. Trump's reaction might be typical Trump then and the incoming President's relationship with the party is off for a rocky start.

If then the outcome is that the POTUS doesn't trust his intelligence services and they are put aside as "democrat supporters", they sure will be laughing in the Kremlin.
No dude. There is zero evidence being presented that indicates it was Russia. Russia wouldn't use a Russian VPN and the malware has been shareware longer than the DNC hacks are alleged to happen. I don't buy the official narrative that they were sloppy to "send a message." I can buy a Russian VPN and go download the malware today from hacker forum to phish for Lindsey Graham's password and when they find out they will probably blame Russia again.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:31 am

TheReal_ND wrote:He's not a politician he's a businessman. Draining the swamp was about corruption and hiring an oil exec could go either way I guess.
Was it? I was hoping it was a bit of both.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:37 am

Well he's good at making deals everyone is saying. Not sure why we need an SOS to do that when we already saw how well that worked with Hilary but I guess we have four years to find out now.

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Post by Montegriffo » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:40 am

Fingers crossed.
Not a fan of big oil so just showing my prejudice.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:46 am

Montegriffo wrote:Fingers crossed.
Not a fan of big oil so just showing my prejudice.
Well realistically that's got a lot to do with foreign policy so there is that.



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Well fuck.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Montegriffo » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:51 am

That's what happens when you cross the CIA, allegedly.
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