Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:36 pm

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Slander is not protected, nor is incite immediate violence or unlawful activity.

1969 case Brandenburg v. Ohio, the court ruled that only speech that is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action"
Who has incited imminent lawless action? If you're gonna lay a charge, you can't lay a charge against "the media"; who you charging with incitement and for what?
Fuck, where to start...
Start with asserting a specific charge against a specific person for a specific act of incitement to imminent lawless action.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:37 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
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Slander is not protected, nor is incite immediate violence or unlawful activity.

1969 case Brandenburg v. Ohio, the court ruled that only speech that is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action"
Who has incited imminent lawless action? If you're gonna lay a charge, you can't lay a charge against "the media"; who you charging with incitement and for what?
Fuck, where to start...
Give us all your feelz. Because that's what counts, when ignoring an Amendment.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:45 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Who has incited imminent lawless action? If you're gonna lay a charge, you can't lay a charge against "the media"; who you charging with incitement and for what?
Fuck, where to start...
Start with asserting a specific charge against a specific person for a specific act of incitement to imminent lawless action.
Person, or media that unwittingly did so?
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:50 pm

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Fuck, where to start...
Start with asserting a specific charge against a specific person for a specific act of incitement to imminent lawless action.
Person, or media that unwittingly did so?
Can't lay a charge unless you give the particulars, can't just invoke an act of attainder against "the media" writ large, that's expressly prohibited by Article 1, Section 9 of the United States Constitution.... unlesss you took it out, let me just double check...

...yeah, no, it's still in there.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by SilverEagle » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:59 pm

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Really? Remind me again when the media was so corrupt in the US that they blatantly lie and call it truth?
Whats that mister gestapo? You want to kill the 1st?
No I want to kill the press the way it is today. It is no longer being unbiased, and it's main stories are more opinion pieces than fact... so if we are to believe the media rags... then we got to hold them accountable for their actions, or lack there of.
I see. I agree that the press needs to be torn down and built anew but where we differ is I think we should continue to let themselves shoot their own foot at let them die off, you want to torch the First Amendment. That's how we are different Hitler.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:00 pm

SilverEagle wrote:
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Whats that mister gestapo? You want to kill the 1st?
No I want to kill the press the way it is today. It is no longer being unbiased, and it's main stories are more opinion pieces than fact... so if we are to believe the media rags... then we got to hold them accountable for their actions, or lack there of.
I see. I agree that the press needs to be torn down and built anew but where we differ is I think we should continue to let themselves shoot their own foot at let them die off, you want to torch the First Amendment. That's how we are different Hitler.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:00 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
The Conservative wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Start with asserting a specific charge against a specific person for a specific act of incitement to imminent lawless action.
Person, or media that unwittingly did so?
Can't lay a charge unless you give the particulars, can't just invoke an act of attainder against "the media" writ large, that's expressly prohibited by Article 1, Section 9 of the United States Constitution.... unlesss you took it out, let me just double check...

...yeah, no, it's still in there.
So are you saying that we should not force the media to take credit for 24/7 coverage of something, that may put an idea into someone's head to attempt the same thing? Seriously?
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by StCapps » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:01 pm

The Conservative wrote:So are you saying that we should not force the media to take credit for 24/7 coverage of something, that may put an idea into someone's head to attempt the same thing? Seriously?
He's saying it's not illegal for the media to do so, it's protected free speech, whether you like what they have to say or not, just fyi, Captain Pearl Clutcher.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by The Conservative » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:02 pm

StCapps wrote:
The Conservative wrote:So are you saying that we should not force the media to take credit for 24/7 coverage of something, that may put an idea into someone's head to attempt the same thing? Seriously?
He's saying it's not illegal for the media to do so, it's protected free speech, whether you like what they have to say or not, just fyi, Captain Pearl Clutcher.
You may as well allow someone to yell fire in the theater then.
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Re: Congressman Steve Scalise (R) shot

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:03 pm

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No I want to kill the press the way it is today. It is no longer being unbiased, and it's main stories are more opinion pieces than fact... so if we are to believe the media rags... then we got to hold them accountable for their actions, or lack there of.
Out of curiosity, is that all the media or just the left wing media? Cos there is an awful lot of opinion pieces in rags like Breitbart, Daily Express etc which is lying propaganda inciting hatred towards minorities the left etc.
If we are going to hold them all to accountability and make it illegal to print lies I might be on board, otherwise you are just showing symptoms of butthurt and a yoghurt enema might be all you need....
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