Start with asserting a specific charge against a specific person for a specific act of incitement to imminent lawless action.The Conservative wrote:Fuck, where to start...Smitty-48 wrote:Who has incited imminent lawless action? If you're gonna lay a charge, you can't lay a charge against "the media"; who you charging with incitement and for what?The Conservative wrote:
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Give us all your feelz. Because that's what counts, when ignoring an Amendment.The Conservative wrote:Fuck, where to start...Smitty-48 wrote:Who has incited imminent lawless action? If you're gonna lay a charge, you can't lay a charge against "the media"; who you charging with incitement and for what?The Conservative wrote:
Slander is not protected, nor is incite immediate violence or unlawful activity.
1969 case Brandenburg v. Ohio, the court ruled that only speech that is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action"
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Person, or media that unwittingly did so?Smitty-48 wrote:Start with asserting a specific charge against a specific person for a specific act of incitement to imminent lawless action.The Conservative wrote:Fuck, where to start...Smitty-48 wrote:
Who has incited imminent lawless action? If you're gonna lay a charge, you can't lay a charge against "the media"; who you charging with incitement and for what?
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Can't lay a charge unless you give the particulars, can't just invoke an act of attainder against "the media" writ large, that's expressly prohibited by Article 1, Section 9 of the United States Constitution.... unlesss you took it out, let me just double check...The Conservative wrote:Person, or media that unwittingly did so?Smitty-48 wrote:Start with asserting a specific charge against a specific person for a specific act of incitement to imminent lawless action.The Conservative wrote:
Fuck, where to start...
...yeah, no, it's still in there.
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I see. I agree that the press needs to be torn down and built anew but where we differ is I think we should continue to let themselves shoot their own foot at let them die off, you want to torch the First Amendment. That's how we are different Hitler.The Conservative wrote:No I want to kill the press the way it is today. It is no longer being unbiased, and it's main stories are more opinion pieces than fact... so if we are to believe the media rags... then we got to hold them accountable for their actions, or lack there of.SilverEagle wrote:Whats that mister gestapo? You want to kill the 1st?The Conservative wrote:
Really? Remind me again when the media was so corrupt in the US that they blatantly lie and call it truth?
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When our educational system rears morons and idiots because our parents at home can't or won't take their time to help educate their children in critical thinking skills, you are asking for a lot to happen, which won't as long as things keep happening like they do today.SilverEagle wrote:I see. I agree that the press needs to be torn down and built anew but where we differ is I think we should continue to let themselves shoot their own foot at let them die off, you want to torch the First Amendment. That's how we are different Hitler.The Conservative wrote:No I want to kill the press the way it is today. It is no longer being unbiased, and it's main stories are more opinion pieces than fact... so if we are to believe the media rags... then we got to hold them accountable for their actions, or lack there of.SilverEagle wrote:
Whats that mister gestapo? You want to kill the 1st?
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So are you saying that we should not force the media to take credit for 24/7 coverage of something, that may put an idea into someone's head to attempt the same thing? Seriously?Smitty-48 wrote:Can't lay a charge unless you give the particulars, can't just invoke an act of attainder against "the media" writ large, that's expressly prohibited by Article 1, Section 9 of the United States Constitution.... unlesss you took it out, let me just double check...The Conservative wrote:Person, or media that unwittingly did so?Smitty-48 wrote:
Start with asserting a specific charge against a specific person for a specific act of incitement to imminent lawless action.
...yeah, no, it's still in there.
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He's saying it's not illegal for the media to do so, it's protected free speech, whether you like what they have to say or not, just fyi, Captain Pearl Clutcher.The Conservative wrote:So are you saying that we should not force the media to take credit for 24/7 coverage of something, that may put an idea into someone's head to attempt the same thing? Seriously?
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You may as well allow someone to yell fire in the theater then.StCapps wrote:He's saying it's not illegal for the media to do so, it's protected free speech, whether you like what they have to say or not, just fyi, Captain Pearl Clutcher.The Conservative wrote:So are you saying that we should not force the media to take credit for 24/7 coverage of something, that may put an idea into someone's head to attempt the same thing? Seriously?
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Out of curiosity, is that all the media or just the left wing media? Cos there is an awful lot of opinion pieces in rags like Breitbart, Daily Express etc which is lying propaganda inciting hatred towards minorities the left etc.The Conservative wrote:
No I want to kill the press the way it is today. It is no longer being unbiased, and it's main stories are more opinion pieces than fact... so if we are to believe the media rags... then we got to hold them accountable for their actions, or lack there of.
If we are going to hold them all to accountability and make it illegal to print lies I might be on board, otherwise you are just showing symptoms of butthurt and a yoghurt enema might be all you need....
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