Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

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Speaker to Animals
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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu May 10, 2018 1:08 pm

So we are back to you having nothing. You want to proclaim I am wrong about that, even though you damned well know those are true statements

As far as God and free will, he commands you to NOT do this bullshit. Do not steal. Do not fornicate. Do not murder your babies.

Sodom had free will too. That didn't preserve them from God's wrath.

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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

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Post by nmoore63 » Thu May 10, 2018 1:11 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:So we are back to you having nothing. You want to proclaim I am wrong about that, even though you damned well know those are true statements

As far as God and free will, he commands you to NOT do this bullshit. Do not steal. Do not fornicate. Do not murder your babies.

Sodom had free will too. That didn't preserve them from God's wrath.
We are back to you failing understand the concept self reflection.

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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by DBTrek » Thu May 10, 2018 1:11 pm

StA thinks if two separate five course meals contain three of the same ingredients, then they're identical meals.
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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by Fife » Thu May 10, 2018 1:20 pm

DBTrek wrote:StA thinks if two separate five course meals contain three of the same ingredients, then they're identical meals.
What, you don't think the state should be legislating every moral aspect of our individual and community lives?

Filthy LOLberg. :lol:

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Post by DBTrek » Thu May 10, 2018 1:22 pm

Fife wrote:
DBTrek wrote:StA thinks if two separate five course meals contain three of the same ingredients, then they're identical meals.
What, you don't think the state should be legislating every moral aspect of our individual and community lives?

Filthy LOLberg. :lol:

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Is that guy giving his graduate thesis while protesting some kind of oppression?
"Hey varmints, don't mess with a guy that's riding a buffalo"

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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu May 10, 2018 1:27 pm

Nah, just running for president.
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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by brewster » Thu May 10, 2018 2:14 pm

DBTrek wrote:Golden rule.
Ten cannots.
Protestant work ethic.
US Constitution.

Pretty much my political guidelines. Not necessarily in that order.
Not bad. My add-on 11th & 12th commandments:

Don't be an idiot
Don't be an asshole

They're really just commentary on the Golden Rule, but some people need it spelled out.
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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu May 10, 2018 2:30 pm

DBTrek wrote:StA thinks if two separate five course meals contain three of the same ingredients, then they're identical meals.

Nope. Bad analogy.

It's more like the difference between a red potato and a russet potato. Yeah, they are pretty different in a specific context, and used for different recipes, but they are still both potatoes.

I do not dispute that there exist differences between conservatism and progressivism. My argument is that the differences make little distinction compared to the similarities. The differences that conservatives and progressives obsess over to distinguish themselves from one another really matter little in effect. Both are essentially liberals, stemming from the Enlightenment, and defending the Enlightenment principles. Several of you lauded the Enlightenment as some self-evident good that must be protected. Liberals.

Marxists on the other hand actually do present some very big differences that make very big distinctions. They are nothing like progressives or conservatives. They wish to destroy the progressive/conservative system. That much I agree with, but their pursuit of a Marxist utopia makes them terrible enemies of our civilization.

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The way the game is played, the similarities are presented as self-evident and off-limits to challenge. So if somebody comes along and challenges the Enlightenment system that is in effect today, you scoff at them at best, but usually try to shut them down and punish them for daring to challenge it. Thus you never really think much about the wider spectrum of ideas. You barely are able to process what the Marxists are saying and doing, and because you won't even engage with them intellectually, you don't even understand how grave the threat is to all of us.
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Re: Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu May 10, 2018 2:32 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Fife wrote:
DBTrek wrote:StA thinks if two separate five course meals contain three of the same ingredients, then they're identical meals.
What, you don't think the state should be legislating every moral aspect of our individual and community lives?

Filthy LOLberg. :lol:

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Is that guy giving his graduate thesis while protesting some kind of oppression?

That was the guy who led the Libertarian party. That photo was from their convention.