Dankula Weighs in on Being Convicted for His Dog’s Politics

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:48 pm

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If I've translated your florid prose correctly, I suspect I agree we'd get Quislinged by "you" in a heartbeat... if *cough* "you" did that. Good thing "you" aren't doing that, then. ;) And somehow countries living outside NATO, get to live in frivolous hippie communes, too. And we started building our current hippie commune back in the 1920's. Funny how that goes...
You'd be the Quislings with all you "America is an evil empire" blah-blah-blah, we'd simply be preventing the maritime strategic choke point of the NATO Baltic Approaches from falling into the wrong hands, and the EU would side with us, you'd have nobody in your corner if you tried to go Bolshie on us.
That's not what a Quisling is. What you're proposing, a foreign puppet, that's a Quisling. And the maritime chokepoint would only fall into the wrong hands if this hyper-hypothetical Unity List-Denmark allowed Russia or China the right to build bases on some Danish island somewhere.

The idea of NATO attacking a former member for leaving the alliance, even Denmark with its strategic position... Yeah, no, doesn't sound politically likely, and you'll need more than just your usual florid prose to sell it.
Attempting to seize the Baltic Approaches by asserting an Anti-NATO internationalist Bolshevist government, which would by default be having to seek the support of the Russians in order to effect such an action; you're the Quislings inside of our North Atlantic security zone.

There'd be no attack, we'd simply have internal Danish elements depose the government and install a client government instead, no fuss, no muss, nary a shot fired.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:57 pm

To wit, when the bad guys do it, that's "Quislings", when we do it, that's "Liberators".

Take down Norway internally for Hitler? Quisling

Depose Mussolini by Allied backed Partisan forces? Liberation.
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Post by BjornP » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:24 pm

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Attempting to seize the Baltic Approaches by asserting an Anti-NATO internationalist Bolshevist government, which would by default be having to seek the support of the Russians in order to effect such an action; you're the Quislings inside of our North Atlantic security zone.
Given how what I'm talking about isn't actually happening and that there is no "we" between the UL and myself.... then no, we're not. ;) If Denmark left NATO, NATO wouldn't declare war and EU just stand on the sidelines.
To wit, when the bad guys do it, that's "Quislings", when we do it, that's "Liberators".

Take down Norway internally for Hitler? Quisling

Depose Mussolini by Allied backed Partisan forces? Liberation.
It's about who the guy works for. If you just bleed the local population dry for your foreign overlords, kill who they want you to kill, torture who they want you to torture, imprison who they tell you to, you're a Quisling not of the people, not by the people, not for the people. Doesn't matter who put you there.
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Post by Zlaxer » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:24 pm

http://libertarianparty.co.uk/2017/12/p ... l-marxism/

It has been said that those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it. While this is true of so many things, the cultural marxist revolution we are now experiencing is perhaps the most insidious of them.

One of the most infamous movements of the cultural marxist revolution of the last century was kicked off in Peking University in 1966 at the hand of the Red Guard. In his book, The Cowshed: Memories of the Chinese Cultural Revolution, Xi Xianlin, a professor of Eastern Languages, recorded his first hand account of the events of those days, as they transpired right there on the Peking campus. From his descriptions one would be forgiven for drawing a comparison with the ‘activism’ of modern western student bodies, faculties, government departments, and court judgements over recent months and years. The similarity is chilling, and ought to serve as a stark warning of how far things have gone.
You know that there's something to "Cultural Marxism" when the Southern Poverty Law Center feels compelled to slam it... I don't know where they get the whole "Jew" thing though....seems like they're trying like hell to cast anyone who believes that the SJW movement is affiliated with Marxism as somehow a bigoted antisemitic....probably even more reasons to think there's some truth to the threat of Cultural Marxism...

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... m-catching

'Cultural Marxism,' a conspiracy theory with an anti-Semitic twist, is being pushed by much of the American right.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:28 pm

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Attempting to seize the Baltic Approaches by asserting an Anti-NATO internationalist Bolshevist government, which would by default be having to seek the support of the Russians in order to effect such an action; you're the Quislings inside of our North Atlantic security zone.
Given how what I'm talking about isn't actually happening and that there is no "we" between the UL and myself.... then no, we're not. ;) If Denmark left NATO, NATO wouldn't declare war and EU just stand on the sidelines.
To wit, when the bad guys do it, that's "Quislings", when we do it, that's "Liberators".

Take down Norway internally for Hitler? Quisling

Depose Mussolini by Allied backed Partisan forces? Liberation.
It's about who the guy works for. If you just bleed the local population dry for your foreign overlords, kill who they want you to kill, torture who they want you to torture, imprison who they tell you to, you're a Quisling not of the people, not by the people, not for the people. Doesn't matter who put you there.
Silk glove war, the EU would not back a Bolshevist anti-NATO anti-American government, at which point Denmark could be strong armed covertly, nary a shot fired, and so no casus belli.

It's not like the pampered bourgeois Danes would actually take up arms in some sort of insurgency to save the far left in Denmark from being deposed, don't be absurd.

Nobody would be tortured, don't be so melodramatic, the Anti-NATO Anti-American government would find itself isolated and cut off from any support, then a client government would simply take over when said Bolshies couldn't effect any executive action, starting with the Danish military refusing to submit to their authority and siding with NATO instead.

There's a right side and a wrong side, Bolshies are on the wrong side, and Denmark would have to be liberated from them, regardless of whatever meager 50.1% majority they might assert as a mandate.
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Post by BjornP » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:35 pm

Smitty-48 wrote: Silk glove war, the EU would not back a Bolshevist anti-NATO anti-American government, at which point Denmark could be strong armed covertly, nary a shot fired, and so no casus belli.

It's not like the pampered bourgeois Danes would actually take up arms in some sort of insurgency to save the far left in Denmark from being deposed, don't be absurd.
The "Okkupert" scenario, huh? In the alt reality where Danes would vote for a majority Unity List government, there probably wouldn't be many of what you call bourgeois Danes. The sort of people who vote Unity List today, are the ones most likely to actually take to the streets. But... they're also the least likely to have any military training - and who knows what military service, if any, there'd be in a UL Denmark.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:37 pm

BjornP wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote: Silk glove war, the EU would not back a Bolshevist anti-NATO anti-American government, at which point Denmark could be strong armed covertly, nary a shot fired, and so no casus belli.

It's not like the pampered bourgeois Danes would actually take up arms in some sort of insurgency to save the far left in Denmark from being deposed, don't be absurd.
The "Okkupert" scenario, huh? In the alt reality where Danes would vote for a majority Unity List government, there probably wouldn't be many of what you call bourgeois Danes. The sort of people who vote Unity List today, are the ones most likely to actually take to the streets. But... they're also the least likely to have any military training - and who knows what military service, if any, there'd be in a UL Denmark.
No, not Okkupert, because we're not the Russians, we don't operate like the Russians, we're the nice guys, we're just not putting up with any Anti-NATO Anti-American Bolshevist governments taking over countries in the North Atlantic security zone, and rightly so, other than that tho, you can do pretty much what you want.

We're not chumps for the far left commie fringe in Europe, but that doesn't make us Russian Oligarchs,
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Post by BjornP » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:50 pm

Well, we'll never know. The only reason the Unity List is even having a good election streak, has to do with their criticism of increased surveillance, selling of private data to private companies by government contracting tech firms, and treating the poor better. They deliberately tone down the old school Marxism talk to get elected. Enough of that, though.... someone steer the direction back to whereever it was being discussed before the "Commies talking over a NATO country" sideshow.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:54 pm

It would only become an issue if such a government were to both a) come to power, and more relevantly b) actually try to follow through with their pie in the sky unicorns and fairy's platform, because most of the time these lefties will talk a big game to whip the rabble into being roused, but once actually faced with the consequences of trying to opt out of the Anglo-American order, walk back from the edge and pretty much just revert to being panty waist bourgeois liberals who don't really have the courage of their stated positions.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:16 pm

I mean, bottom line, King Dollah is not the House of Bourbon, King Dollah is not the House of Romanov, King Dollah is not repressive, King Dollah rather showers everybody with cash and happy fun times, who in the Anglo-American order is really want to go to war, even silk glove war, with the hand that feeds their cushy lifestyles? Internet Faux Bolshies tin foil hats in hand? No, not even them.

When King Dollah says "let them eat cake", he's not being ironic, he means like truckloads of cake actually showing up at their door.
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