The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:13 am

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ssu wrote:Neocons are of course greatest friends of right-wing Israelis. Not so with leftist or centrist Israel.
Even the most lefty wefty Israelis are Zion First, and the Neocons are actually way too lefty wefty for the Israeli right, the Israeli right is the Original Alt-Right.

The Israeli right has moved well to the right of the American Neoconservative center, the Israeli left are basically just Democrat party flavoured Neocons for all intents and purposes, essentially Clintonistas, Labor, Hatnuah, Yesh Atid, and Kulanu, that's basically the Israeli proxy for the Democrat party, broken into four factions, if you look at their platforms, it's all the same shit the Democrats peddle, ain't no hardcore lefties, basically the same urbane bourgeois panty waists, except with universal conscription.
Oh, they are all surely Zionists (even if there are post-Zionists too, even if the term is usually used as a derogatory term by the right-wing Zionists). And anyway, why wouldn't Israelis be for the existence of the modern state of Israel?

But in truth there are differences. Revisionist Zionism which Bibi Netanyahu's party is about is different from Liberal Zionism and especially Labor Zionism, which is for restarting talks with the Palestinians.
Likud would negotiate with Fatah, if they thought Fatah was actually in charge and so could deliver on anything, but I don't see why Likud should bother talking to Hamas, and neither does Likud.

It's not that Likud is opposed to making deals, it's just that lefties believe in negotiation simply for its own sake, and righties don't.

Neocons however, are not opposed to phony baloney deals for political expediency, Neocons will sell you down the river, which again, is another reason they are not necessarily the best friends of Likud. If you don't live in Israel, skin in the game, you can never truly be trusted, Israel has no friends, only interests, some countries can afford the "friends" delusion, not Israel tho.
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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by Fife » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:50 am

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He has never served in the military. He has never studied another region of the world, or another period of history, at the graduate level. He has spent his entire adult life in the interlocking world of hawkish think tanks, Washington law firms, Republican politics, and the right-wing media. And he manifests that narrowness in the smugly insular worldview he brings to his new job.

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From a life of insularity and privilege, John Bolton has built a worldview based on national and personal impunity. The United States is not morally responsible for what it did in Chile or Iraq. Bolton himself is not responsible for the many false predictions he has made, and for the catastrophic war he helped engineer. It’s no surprise that such a man would get along with Donald Trump. Both have floated upward despite the wreckage they have created in other peoples’ lives. Now, together, they are free to create more than ever before.
Screw that guy.

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Post by nmoore63 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:59 pm

Other than the fact that John Bolton generally has the courage to stab you in the chest instead of the back, what does this guy possibly offer?

I mean his claim to fame is that he still thinks the Iraq War was worth it

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:30 pm

He's good for sending a message to people about how little you regard them. He is better as an ambassador to some cucked nation. He would have made a great ambassador to UK, for example. He's just such a huge asshole, it is an insult to just Bolten-bomb some country like that.

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Post by nmoore63 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:02 pm

Well there you go.

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by ssu » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:48 pm

So how does the new national security advisor see Trump's idea of holding a meeting with the North Korean leader?
Donald Trump’s hawkish new choice for national security adviser has cast doubt on upcoming talks with North Korea, a Republican senator said.

“He has a very healthy scepticism of North Korea”, Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and administration ally, said of newly elevated adviser John Bolton in an appearance on Fox News Sunday.

“I had dinner with Bolton a couple of nights ago. His big fear is that they’re just buying time”, Mr Graham said. “He sees these negotiations as a way of buying time”.
How healthy Bolton's sceptism about North Korea I would question.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:34 pm

http://babylonbee.com/news/john-bolton- ... zation-vi/
WASHINGTON, D.C.—According to sources close to incoming National Security Advisor designate John Bolton, the diplomat and politician worked a late night at the office Monday, staying up into the early morning hours nuking other countries in popular 4X PC game Sid Meier’s Civilization VI.

Bolton refused to research any techs except those that would allow him to unlock the game’s nuclear weapons, and ignored the opposing AI players’ offers of peace in favor of turning their civilizations into glowing green wastelands.

“Suck on this, Gandhi!” Bolton reportedly bellowed at his computer screen as he dropped “the big one” on one rival empire, cackling madly as he lovingly watched the flames rise higher and higher on his opponent’s capital city. “Yes, yeeeeeesss!!! Burn, baby, burn! All that’s left of your pathetic legacy will be ashes and the fading knowledge that your miserable existence is in flames! Hahahaaa!!”

Bolton’s associates tried to get him to leave the office and go home to get some sleep, but Bolton reportedly insisted on getting in “just one more turn,” according to sources. The diplomat continued to repeatedly click all over the screen, building more and more military units and devoting all his empire’s resources into nukes.

“John’s really been pushing it to the limit in preparation for his new role in the White House. He gets a little scary when he gets really into a Civ game,” one associate told reporters. “He spent the second half of the ’90s nuking the Celtics and Vikings in Civilization II. It’s where he got most of his foreign policy from.”
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Post by C-Mag » Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:45 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The End of Trump; the Dawning of the Age of Bolton.

Post by C-Mag » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:58 pm

POTUS Trump at Baltic Conference today.

He is asked about US border security starting at the 27:00 mark and he talks for four and a half minutes.
This includes Trumps call for the US to pull out of the Middle East and focus on rebuilding America.




Not exactly what one would expect on the verge of the Bolton era.
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