European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

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Re: European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

Post by DBTrek » Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:57 pm

Intimidation can be illegal without making racial slurs illegal.
That’s the American approach.
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Re: European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

Post by Montegriffo » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:05 pm

DBTrek wrote:Intimidation can be illegal without making racial slurs illegal.
That’s the American approach.
''We hate the blacks'' is not so much a slur as a threat in that situation. I don't think she was complaining because she was offended.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Re: European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

Post by Viktorthepirate » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:19 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
DBTrek wrote:Intimidation can be illegal without making racial slurs illegal.
That’s the American approach.
''We hate the blacks'' is not so much a slur as a threat in that situation. I don't think she was complaining because she was offended.
What was threatened?

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Re: European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

Post by DBTrek » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:34 pm

I think the intimidation came more from being stuck in a small room with only a single door between yourself and a crowd of an unknown size yelling “we hate blacks” specifically at you.

If she walked past a girl in the hall, and the girl rolled her eyes and said “I hate blacks” I doubt she would feel intimidated. Mad, sure. But not in immediate danger.
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Re: European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

Post by nmoore63 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:56 pm

A bit like you can't run over street protesters, but if they surround your car and start bang on the windows its gas on time?

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Re: European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

Post by BjornP » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:34 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
DBTrek wrote:Intimidation can be illegal without making racial slurs illegal.
That’s the American approach.
''We hate the blacks'' is not so much a slur as a threat in that situation. I don't think she was complaining because she was offended.
Hatred is not threat. Hating someone, no matter the motivation, is not in itself a danger to your personal safety. It can become a danger if the "hater" starts either planning, calling for, or carrying out attacks against the object of hatred. But then the threat is that of a physical attack or the vocalized promise of attack, not simply the expression of hatred.
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Re: European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

Post by Viktorthepirate » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:16 pm

BjornP wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
DBTrek wrote:Intimidation can be illegal without making racial slurs illegal.
That’s the American approach.
''We hate the blacks'' is not so much a slur as a threat in that situation. I don't think she was complaining because she was offended.
Hatred is not threat. Hating someone, no matter the motivation, is not in itself a danger to your personal safety. It can become a danger if the "hater" starts either planning, calling for, or carrying out attacks against the object of hatred. But then the threat is that of a physical attack or the vocalized promise of attack, not simply the expression of hatred.
+1

If they want to kick those douche bags out of school for their horrendous behavior, by all means do so.

But locking people in cages for that is bullshit.

And don't tell me "it's just a fine". Speeding is "just a fine" and we have many people in jail for inability to pay.

Selling loose cigarettes doesn't carry the death penalty but a man was choked to death because he "resisted".

Laws carry the full violent force of that state to enforce.

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Re: European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

Post by clubgop » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:37 am

BjornP wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:
DBTrek wrote:Intimidation can be illegal without making racial slurs illegal.
That’s the American approach.
''We hate the blacks'' is not so much a slur as a threat in that situation. I don't think she was complaining because she was offended.
Hatred is not threat. Hating someone, no matter the motivation, is not in itself a danger to your personal safety. It can become a danger if the "hater" starts either planning, calling for, or carrying out attacks against the object of hatred. But then the threat is that of a physical attack or the vocalized promise of attack, not simply the expression of hatred.
Lot of qualified language there. Lets reverse things here. Two black guys standing outsode yelling We hate honkies or crakkahs outside a white girls room. Would that get the same treatment. Possibly. Now reverse the genders. Two women yelling We hate blacks outside a black man's door? No. Two black women yelling We hate whites outside a white man's door? Hell no.

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Re: European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:43 am

It amuses me when Europeans pontificate on anti-hatred.

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Re: European displacement prof, or shamed racist?

Post by Ph64 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:14 am

DBTrek wrote:Intimidation can be illegal without making racial slurs illegal.
That’s the American approach.
Define intimidation.

Let's say I'm a foreman on a construction site, two kids wander in... I tell them to get the fuck off the construction site because its dangerous, and if they don't I'll have them forcibly removed. Intimidating, right? Should that be illegal?

Antifa seems to like intimidation... Somehow a lot of people seem to approve of intimidation when it agrees with their own biases. Seems like if you're a "fucking white male" these days there's a lot of intimidation going on...