Daniel Shaver shooting

[Fife]

He was unable to crawl on his knees while keeping his hands raised and his feet crossed. Therefore he had to die.

. . . while obviously impaired. Really impaired.

Drunk in a hotel room? Well, fuck 'im, m8, can't be getting so drunk on your private property that you can't perfectly execute a forward knee crawl with crossed ankles and raised hands with some crazy asshole pointing a rifle at you yelling "I'm going to shoot you" at you.

Irresponsible drunks gonna drunk, I reckon. :goteam: :drunk:

[nmoore63]

Unacceptable.

It is unacceptable, thus he’s not a cop anymore.
The jury says it wasn’t a crime, so we might wonder why they think that. I doubt it’s because the jury loves murderous cops, so there’s probably another rationale.

The government always gives a standard on itself easier than it does on the public.
I imagine the jury's guilty instructions were such because he was a cop.

If I did that in my home, under the same circumstances, I would be required to present an affirmative defense. NOT "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY."

I see no reason to hold professionals to a lower standard than I would be held to.

[Speaker to Animals]

He was unable to crawl on his knees while keeping his hands raised and his feet crossed. Therefore he had to die.

. . . while obviously impaired. Really impaired.

Drunk in a hotel room? Well, fuck 'im, m8, can't be getting so drunk on your private property that you can't perfectly execute a forward knee crawl with crossed ankles and raised hands with some crazy asshole pointing a rifle at you yelling "I'm going to shoot you" at you.

Irresponsible drunks gonna drunk, I reckon. :goteam: :drunk:

Look at them defending this. It's fucking amazing.

[Smitty-48]

At 4:24, second time after being specifically warned not to, he textbook "reaches for it", cop shouting "dont!" as he fires, reasonable doubt right there.

[DBTrek]

The jury had him if they wanted him.
The jury, not some internal government investigation.
Twelve citizens.
They didn’t even convict him on on the Reckless Manslaughter charge.
Why do you suppose that is?

[Speaker to Animals]

LOL

the jury..

[Speaker to Animals]

Not being able to accomplish ridiculous instructions ought never be justification for murder. We are well into crazyland here. I am confident at least half of you would be dead after Officer Simon Says shows up to your hotel room for a pop Simon Says game.

[Fife]

Unacceptable.

It is unacceptable, thus he’s not a cop anymore.
The jury says it wasn’t a crime, so we might wonder why they think that. I doubt it’s because the jury loves murderous cops, so there’s probably another rationale.

The government always gives a standard on itself easier than it does on the public.
I imagine the jury's guilty instructions were such because he was a cop.

If I did that in my home, under the same circumstances, I would be required to present an affirmative defense. NOT "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY."

I see no reason to hold professionals to a lower standard than I would be held to.

What authority does a cop have to do anything in self-defense that you or I don't have?

Do you or I have legal authority to start yelling crazy-assed instructions to an obviously neutralized threat, while also yelling at him "Fuck up one more time on my crazy instructions, and I'm going to shoot you?"

I respect, of course, the jury's verdict. However, here's a thought experiment: What if the shooter had been a private citizen, initially acting in a way to defend his home, and we had the same video play out otherwise?

Cold-blooded murder.

The state and it's stasi don't have any legitimate authority to use deadly force than the most lowly bum on the street. NONE.

[nmoore63]

At 4:24, second time after being specifically warned not to, he textbook "reaches for it", cop shouting "dont!" as he fires, reasonable doubt right there.

Its the cops fault the suspect was in a position to reach for it.

[DBTrek]

LOL

the jury..

/shrug

That’s how Americans do it.
But you’re not the only one who doesn’t like the system.
Plenty of folks anxious to get their Justice, their way, right now.

You know your hashtag.