Guys, I think we need this

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Re: Guys, I think we need this

Post by SilverEagle » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:08 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:Sounds like your nephew got caught up in the Ron Paul cult.
Well you're either A. Dumb as fuck or B. a troll.

People who believe what Ron Paul believes work and believe if you don't work then you starve.
There is a time for good men to do bad things.

For fuck sake, 1984 is NOT an instruction manual!

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Re: Guys, I think we need this

Post by SilverEagle » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:10 am

C-Mag wrote:One of our big problems is the social engineers are pushing the age of actual adulthood back. That age when you are responsible for yourself. Now kids are legally on parents insurance until 26. Kids almost can't work until they are 18, etc. If we want to raise kids to be adults we have to give them some adult type responsibilities before their late 20s.
Yeah I agree with that. Hell by the time I was 16 I had a full time job working for $4.50 hr as a landscaper working 16 hour days.
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Re: Guys, I think we need this

Post by SilverEagle » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:22 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
SilverEagle wrote:All I can say is that I'm about to smack the shit out of my millennial nephew, maybe he's Gen Y, he's 20. Holy fuck that kid has thrown away every opportunity sent his way. He decided to not go to college, a smart move for him because he would've flunked out, but every job he gets he quits. He had a job at a local candle factory and he called off at least three times per month until he got fired. Then he got hired at a Walmart distribution center. The job paid $16.50 and hour plus benefits and he went for his orientation day then he got an email stating that they thanked him for his interest in the job but he was not selected for hire. We get this news while we are a family vacation and my sister in law is all upset. I told her maybe it was a mistake and it was a mass email sent out to all that applicants. I told her don't worry about and lets enjoy our time at the beach. The next day she walked down to the beach and told her sister, my wife, that it was indeed an email sent in error. Everything is fine until we get home and found out what really happened. My nephew had a party at his parents house, slept in and never went to the orientation day and lost the job. Then he got hired at an oil field getting paid $14.00 an hour. He did work that job for about 2 months then quit. Now he's looking for another job but he won't apply for fast food because he feels it's below him. :evil: That little shit finally got kicked out of the house, hell that should've been done two years ago. My wife asked if I could get him into a local mill that I have connections with and I said absofuckinlutely NOT! Yeah I could get him into a local mill that's union and pays $25.00 hr plus benefits but he'll just quit in a month or less. Oh and all of this happened since Dec 2016.
Sounds like me at that age. I didn't get my shit together until age 30. I realized how destructive Florida was for me, and jumped town when a friend announced they were leaving. I got to Ohio, realized I was on my own, and got my shit together quick.

He probably just needs independence, to realize how fucked he can be, on his own. Either way, it's too late for his parents to teach him how to be a man - that time is passed.
Yeah I think you're right, he needs some lessons from the school of hard knocks. I doubt me sitting down with him will do any good.
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Re: Guys, I think we need this

Post by K@th » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:49 am

SilverEagle wrote:All I can say is that I'm about to smack the shit out of my millennial nephew, maybe he's Gen Y, he's 20. Holy fuck that kid has thrown away every opportunity sent his way. He decided to not go to college, a smart move for him because he would've flunked out, but every job he gets he quits. He had a job at a local candle factory and he called off at least three times per month until he got fired. Then he got hired at a Walmart distribution center. The job paid $16.50 and hour plus benefits and he went for his orientation day then he got an email stating that they thanked him for his interest in the job but he was not selected for hire. We get this news while we are a family vacation and my sister in law is all upset. I told her maybe it was a mistake and it was a mass email sent out to all that applicants. I told her don't worry about and lets enjoy our time at the beach. The next day she walked down to the beach and told her sister, my wife, that it was indeed an email sent in error. Everything is fine until we get home and found out what really happened. My nephew had a party at his parents house, slept in and never went to the orientation day and lost the job. Then he got hired at an oil field getting paid $14.00 an hour. He did work that job for about 2 months then quit. Now he's looking for another job but he won't apply for fast food because he feels it's below him. :evil: That little shit finally got kicked out of the house, hell that should've been done two years ago. My wife asked if I could get him into a local mill that I have connections with and I said absofuckinlutely NOT! Yeah I could get him into a local mill that's union and pays $25.00 hr plus benefits but he'll just quit in a month or less. Oh and all of this happened since Dec 2016.
You are very close to describing our 23 year old. In the past year-ish, we've seen some minor improvement, but man, this kid used to thinking working two months in a row meant he had earned himself a three month break. Oy.

We kept saying, "move out, you have to move out, move out..."

Then we just started making his life miserable by making him leave on the weekends (every weekend, so we could have empty nest time.) We also started putting more restrictive rules on him.

Finally, one day he says, "I'm moving out and it's your fault for making me feel like I'm not welcome here."

We lol'd hard, right in his face. No duh, kid, that was our goal.

Now we have the 19-year old with Aspberger's Syndrome. He's a lot of fun, too, though in a completely different way.
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Re: Guys, I think we need this

Post by C-Mag » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:36 am

SilverEagle wrote:
C-Mag wrote:One of our big problems is the social engineers are pushing the age of actual adulthood back. That age when you are responsible for yourself. Now kids are legally on parents insurance until 26. Kids almost can't work until they are 18, etc. If we want to raise kids to be adults we have to give them some adult type responsibilities before their late 20s.
Yeah I agree with that. Hell by the time I was 16 I had
a full time job :clap:
working for $4.50 hr :dance:
as a landscaper working 16 hour days. :drool:
Yeah, been there, done that, good times. I saved up money for a couple months to buy a pair of boots I wanted.
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Re: Guys, I think we need this

Post by C-Mag » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:38 am

Kath wrote:
Finally, one day he says, "I'm moving out and it's your fault for making me feel like I'm not welcome here."

We lol'd hard, right in his face. No duh, kid, that was our goal.

Nice Work Kath :clap:
Sounds like you really got him in touch with YOUR Feelings. :dance:
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Re: Guys, I think we need this

Post by K@th » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:41 am

C-Mag wrote:
Yeah, been there, done that, good times. I saved up money for a couple months to buy a pair of boots I wanted.
I'm 51. Since the summer I was 16, I've only been unemployed one time, for three weeks, while I was transitioning from one part of the country to another. I don't get this desire to not work. I just don't.
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Re: Guys, I think we need this

Post by C-Mag » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:15 am

Kath wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Yeah, been there, done that, good times. I saved up money for a couple months to buy a pair of boots I wanted.
I'm 51. Since the summer I was 16, I've only been unemployed one time, for three weeks, while I was transitioning from one part of the country to another. I don't get this desire to not work. I just don't.
Me neither. That's about all I've been unemployed for too. I took some pretty shitty temp jobs along the way. Shoveling bacon was a favorite. :?
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