By NJ standards Antifa is now a Domestic Terrorist group

[MilSpecs]

Both are a threat and by ignoring the latter you invite the former. Don't blame me round eye. You'll see soon enough.

Everyone who's come here has been absorbed for the most part. We change a little, but they change a lot. And we have to change, at least a little. Stagnancy kills over time.

But the problem is that the onus is not to assimilate but to coexist. Its how you hear about a salad instead of a melting pot nowadays.

A salad doesn't work, the melting pot is what Made American Great

It's going to be a melting pot, regardless, because we all tend to become more like each other over time IMO. Ironically, though, the most separate among us are the Amish - a European group. Even the Hasidim interact with the rest of the U.S. on American terms.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's not even the same thing either. The only previous immigrant group that was nonwestern were the Chinese, and they were pretty few in numbers back then. Irish and Italians may have spoken a different language, but they were still European peoples. They were part of Christendom (what was left of it, anyway). They shared a common history and ethical framework with existing Americans. It wasn't that much of a stretch to assimilate them.

Muslims from some of the most violent and regressive places on this planet share very little in common with us other than our species. They operate on entirely different cultural programming. They are genetically inclined towards different cultural forms and social behaviors. The fact that their religion is explicitly predicated upon our civilization's destruction should tell you something about how well they are going to assimilate.

We could always deal with small numbers of these people coming here and refusing to assimilate. They would just become isolated and die out on their own. But in these large numbers, they congregate into their little nations-within-our-nation and those communities begin to grow like cancerous tumors within our society.

These people do not come here because they believe in our nation's values or want to participate in it. They come here because they want gibs, or jobs, and (eventually) to begin creating their own mini-nations here.

They are colonizers, plain and simple. These are not immigrants. They are not victims. They are trying to colonize us.

[MilSpecs]

It's not even the same thing either. The only previous immigrant group that was nonwestern were the Chinese, and they were pretty few in numbers back then. Irish and Italians may have spoken a different language, but they were still European peoples. They were part of Christendom (what was left of it, anyway). They shared a common history and ethical framework with existing Americans. It wasn't that much of a stretch to assimilate them.

They shared a religion and some history, but there were significant cultural differences. Southern Italians and Sicilians had an honor culture. They shared some culture with the Muslim world as well. There was a history of mutual animosity between European groups that was overcome through intermarriage and Americanization, and that took a couple of generations.

They come here because they want gibs, or jobs, and (eventually) to begin creating their own mini-nations here.

Almost everybody came here for jobs! Do you think people left the Emerald Isle or the Mediterranean because they wanted to live in accordance with Constitutional ideals? The streets were paved with gold - you could get a job the same day you got here - you could own land! Your kids could have a better life than all their ancestors. You could get rich. Even if you didn't, you were still better off by the standards of the people you left behind in the old country.

You are making exactly the same arguments your ancestors did to keep out the waves of European immigration that came after them, and the same arguments my ancestors made to keep yours out.

[TheReal_ND]

So keep them the out. Why are we hide bound to let in anyone simply on merit of being a person? Fuck this shit. It doesn't work and you know it.

[MilSpecs]

So keep them the out. Why are we hide bound to let in anyone simply on merit of being a person? Fuck this shit. It doesn't work and you know it.

Why assume I would let anyone in for any reason? I don't have a problem with some humanitarian immigration, but mostly it should be for people who have historical ties to the U.S., to whom we owe something, or have something to offer. A lot of our doctors are Muslim. Indians tend to have more education and contribute to our tech and science sectors. Mexicans have historic ties to parts of the U.S. Nigerians and Chinese succeed out of proportion to their numbers. Let those people in.

[TheReal_ND]

You literally let in every single people that directly compete with us. To what end? Are we colonizing their institutions and states? No. We're fucking dying here and nobody wants to preform triage.

[MilSpecs]

You literally let in every single people that directly compete with us. To what end? Are we colonizing their institutions and states? No. We're fucking dying here and nobody wants to preform triage.

Are you saying that we let people in so they can go back to their home countries and compete with us? If not, how are we being colonized?

[TheReal_ND]

THATS EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCK IM SAYING

Nobody is troubling their demographics. THEY are FUCKING our demographics.

And it's a fucking scientific fact that the more DIVERSE the society the less white people reproduce.

Point at the country we are allowed to have. Now point to the country we displace them from.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's not even the same thing either. The only previous immigrant group that was nonwestern were the Chinese, and they were pretty few in numbers back then. Irish and Italians may have spoken a different language, but they were still European peoples. They were part of Christendom (what was left of it, anyway). They shared a common history and ethical framework with existing Americans. It wasn't that much of a stretch to assimilate them.

They shared a religion and some history, but there were significant cultural differences. Southern Italians and Sicilians had an honor culture. They shared some culture with the Muslim world as well. There was a history of mutual animosity between European groups that was overcome through intermarriage and Americanization, and that took a couple of generations.

They come here because they want gibs, or jobs, and (eventually) to begin creating their own mini-nations here.

Almost everybody came here for jobs! Do you think people left the Emerald Isle or the Mediterranean because they wanted to live in accordance with Constitutional ideals? The streets were paved with gold - you could get a job the same day you got here - you could own land! Your kids could have a better life than all their ancestors. You could get rich. Even if you didn't, you were still better off by the standards of the people you left behind in the old country.

You are making exactly the same arguments your ancestors did to keep out the waves of European immigration that came after them, and the same arguments my ancestors made to keep yours out.

You make a lot of silly assumptions.

My ancestors came here as conquerers and colonizers, no different than these recent arrivals. Don't try to snow the snowman.

[MilSpecs]

My ancestors came here as conquerers and colonizers, no different than these recent arrivals. Don't try to snow the snowman.

IIRC, we come from similar backgrounds, which means your ancestors included 19th century immigrants and early American colonists. Correct me if I'm wrong.