Haven't been around for a while...

[Okeefenokee]

Say what you will about Rant but after seeing his superior reason and logic he was able to convince me that Atheism is NOT a belief system.

Lets play name the sockpuppet.

Based on this post, I say nuke.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's a war, ooky, and you guys started it. Remember over the past eight years when people kept telling you guys that all this tyrannical shit was going to come back against you when the other side comes to power? None of you gave a shit then. Now it's come back to haunt you. You guys made it quite clear that this is a war, and I hope my side wins it.

[Okeefenokee]

Say what you will about Rant but after seeing his superior reason and logic he was able to convince me that Atheism is NOT a belief system.

It is a belief system, it's just not an organized religion. Rant was almost always wrong, especially when it came to religion.

That said this is definitely ooky, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for an actual debate with ooky, back in the day she would debate rationally on occasion, but now she is so sure everyone who disagrees with her lives in some pro-Trump bubble, that it's pretty much impossible to get through to her. Clearly time away from those who disagree with her has just solidified her belief that the only people who ever defend Trump on anything are Trump nuthuggers, she honestly believes that horseshit and judges political opinions according to that ridiculous assumption.

yeah. there's not much left to do after someone gets there.

[ooky]

in our district, those kids voted at something over 90% against Trump.

So, in other words, people who are incapable of reason agree with you. You must be very proud.

....And you miss the point completely. The point is that these kids knew about this election and they cared about it pretty deeply, so it stands to reason that they have been talking about it among themselves. And that was a much higher percentage against Trump than among adults in my district.

[adwinistrator]

in our district, those kids voted at something over 90% against Trump.

So, in other words, people who are incapable of reason agree with you. You must be very proud.

....And you miss the point completely. The point is that these kids knew about this election and they cared about it pretty deeply, so it stands to reason that they have been talking about it among themselves. And that was a much higher percentage against Trump than among adults in my district.

We did this when I was in middle school, Ross Perot won our election...

Must have been the ears.

[Okeefenokee]

If you're making conclusions about the world based on the opinions and interests of school children, I challenge your conclusions to the taste test against the conclusions I've derived from reading the entrails of disemboweled rodents.

I forecast a positive future, with many a chicken little -the sky is falling- liberals droning on into irrelevancy about the dangers of Russia and literal Hitler.

[ooky]

It's a war, ooky, and you guys started it. Remember over the past eight years when people kept telling you guys that all this tyrannical shit was going to come back against you when the other side comes to power? None of you gave a shit then. Now it's come back to haunt you. You guys made it quite clear that this is a war, and I hope my side wins it.

I cannot believe Obama was tyrannical - the culture war can be, but that isn't all about him or even mostly about politics at all. I was upset at how he expanded executive power and didn't vote for him in 2012 because of it. But that was us continuing on a trend, one that I didn't want him to further but it was a fully bipartisan trend to be sure, not something wholly new he did that had never been seen before. Now what I saw over the past 8 years was liberals mostly trying to find ways to compromise. For example, the ACA originally being a conservative plan. I saw conservatives of a tea party bent do everything they could to basically thwart any attempt at any compromise for 8 years and essentially become the party of "anything that Obama guy says, we are 1000% against." Cynically I feel this stance had less to do with real ideology and more to do with it being a successful strategy for locking in an angry base and making them as angry as possible. We do not understand why you feel like we were at war in the first place, and therefore liberals mostly do not understand why you feel like you can treat us with a mean disregard and almost like an occupying government, rather than a government for all the people.

[ooky]

If you're making conclusions about the world based on the opinions and interests of school children, I challenge your conclusions to the taste test against the conclusions I've derived from reading the entrails of disemboweled rodents.

I forecast a positive future, with many a chicken little -the sky is falling- liberals droning on into irrelevancy about the dangers of Russia and literal Hitler.

Still missing the point. The assumption, I think, was my kid would not have known any of this or cared about any of this if I hadn't been a terrible parent and indoctrinated her. I'm explaining how in my area, the kids seemed to have come into a high level of interest and to some conclusions without too much help from adults.

[adwinistrator]

If you're making conclusions about the world based on the opinions and interests of school children, I challenge your conclusions to the taste test against the conclusions I've derived from reading the entrails of disemboweled rodents.

I forecast a positive future, with many a chicken little -the sky is falling- liberals droning on into irrelevancy about the dangers of Russia and literal Hitler.

Is this really your takeaway from ooky's post?

Ooky: "My kid made a Trump joke about groping"
MHF: "I can't believe you told your child about that"
Ooky: "I didn't, she knew about it from other kids. They are paying attention at a young age, even had a mock election in school"
Okee: "I can't believe you base your politics on your child's mock-election!!!!"

[Speaker to Animals]

It's a war, ooky, and you guys started it. Remember over the past eight years when people kept telling you guys that all this tyrannical shit was going to come back against you when the other side comes to power? None of you gave a shit then. Now it's come back to haunt you. You guys made it quite clear that this is a war, and I hope my side wins it.

I cannot believe Obama was tyrannical - the culture war can be, but that isn't all about him or even mostly about politics at all. I was upset at how he expanded executive power and didn't vote for him in 2012 because of it. But that was us continuing on a trend, one that I didn't want him to further but it was a fully bipartisan trend to be sure, not something wholly new he did that had never been seen before. Now what I saw over the past 8 years was liberals mostly trying to find ways to compromise. For example, the ACA originally being a conservative plan. I saw conservatives of a tea party bent do everything they could to basically thwart any attempt at any compromise for 8 years and essentially become the party of "anything that Obama guy says, we are 1000% against." Cynically I feel this stance had less to do with real ideology and more to do with it being a successful strategy for locking in an angry base and making them as angry as possible. We do not understand why you feel like we were at war in the first place, and therefore liberals mostly do not understand why you feel like you can treat us with a mean disregard and almost like an occupying government, rather than a government for all the people.

Yep, and therein lies the problem. You hold nothing but contempt for your fellow Americans, and refused all that time to ever acknowledge how badly they were treated, and yet now here you are with hat in hand asking those same people to empathize with you.

Why shouldn't I just deny your concerns and carry on as if any of your complaints are illegitimate as well?