Sandy Hook Parents File 1st Argument To Supreme Court

[Zlaxer]

It is most certainly NOT the express duty of the NRA to defend the 2nd Amendment. It's a hunting/rifle enthusiast organization, which has morphed into a massive lobbying power. It's the equivalent of a hobby club on a national scale.

The NRA's job is what they say their job is....as with most non-state organizations.....you actually believe that trying to keep the 2nd amendment a broad right makes them evil. Why do you get the cherry pick which rights are worth protecting to their fullest extent and which are not? This is why I want people like YOU to have your own country separate from ME. You think you can cherry pick the parts of the constitution you agree with and use the courts to crush everything else. Seriously - we're never going to agree.

[SuburbanFarmer]

It is most certainly NOT the express duty of the NRA to defend the 2nd Amendment. It's a hunting/rifle enthusiast organization, which has morphed into a massive lobbying power. It's the equivalent of a hobby club on a national scale.

The NRA's job is what they say their job is....as with most non-state organizations.....you actually believe that trying to keep the 2nd amendment a broad right makes them evil. Why do you get the cherry pick which rights are worth protecting to their fullest extent and which are not? This is why I want people like YOU to have your own country separate from ME. You think you can cherry pick the parts of the constitution you agree with and use the courts to crush everything else. Seriously - we're never going to agree.

I never said that they were "evil", but I did imply that it's completely hypocritical and self-serving. They've been playing the rubes against each other for membership dues and donations, and achieved a stratospheric level of success.

I'm just trying to show you that for all of the blame (scapegoating) placed on "mental health" involving gun violence, the chief advocate of gun ownership doesn't seem to take any interest in actually pursuing mental healthcare, or lobbying congress for same. You don't find that even a bit odd?

Stop strawmanning me into some insane caricature, like the rest of the gun-nuts. I don't give a fuck about your guns - I want you to take a balanced view of this issue.

[Zlaxer]

It is most certainly NOT the express duty of the NRA to defend the 2nd Amendment. It's a hunting/rifle enthusiast organization, which has morphed into a massive lobbying power. It's the equivalent of a hobby club on a national scale.

The NRA's job is what they say their job is....as with most non-state organizations.....you actually believe that trying to keep the 2nd amendment a broad right makes them evil. Why do you get the cherry pick which rights are worth protecting to their fullest extent and which are not? This is why I want people like YOU to have your own country separate from ME. You think you can cherry pick the parts of the constitution you agree with and use the courts to crush everything else. Seriously - we're never going to agree.

I never said that they were "evil", but I did imply that it's completely hypocritical and self-serving. They've been playing the rubes against each other for membership dues and donations, and achieved a stratospheric level of success.

I'm just trying to show you that for all of the blame (scapegoating) placed on "mental health" involving gun violence, the chief advocate of gun ownership doesn't seem to take any interest in actually pursuing mental healthcare, or lobbying congress for same. You don't find that even a bit odd?

Stop strawmanning me into some insane caricature, like the rest of the gun-nuts. I don't give a fuck about your guns - I want you to take a balanced view of this issue.

There is nothing to be "balanced" - the Sandihook families should have no cause of action against the gun manufacturers.

And no - I don't find it odd that the NRA doesn't waste money and resources on mental health issues....it takes enough resources just to keep the gun grabbers at bay.....

[SuburbanFarmer]

The NRA's job is what they say their job is....as with most non-state organizations.....you actually believe that trying to keep the 2nd amendment a broad right makes them evil. Why do you get the cherry pick which rights are worth protecting to their fullest extent and which are not? This is why I want people like YOU to have your own country separate from ME. You think you can cherry pick the parts of the constitution you agree with and use the courts to crush everything else. Seriously - we're never going to agree.

I never said that they were "evil", but I did imply that it's completely hypocritical and self-serving. They've been playing the rubes against each other for membership dues and donations, and achieved a stratospheric level of success.

I'm just trying to show you that for all of the blame (scapegoating) placed on "mental health" involving gun violence, the chief advocate of gun ownership doesn't seem to take any interest in actually pursuing mental healthcare, or lobbying congress for same. You don't find that even a bit odd?

Stop strawmanning me into some insane caricature, like the rest of the gun-nuts. I don't give a fuck about your guns - I want you to take a balanced view of this issue.

There is nothing to be "balanced" - the Sandihook families should have no cause of action against the gun manufacturers.

And no - I don't find it odd that the NRA doesn't waste money and resources on mental health issues....it takes enough resources just to keep the gun grabbers at bay.....

Perhaps.. perhaps not. If it can be shown that they marketed specifically to young, violent kids, then there may be some liability - same as cigarette companies faced in the 80s.

I don't think it's a particularly important cross to hang on, but the inevitable mind-blowing by the Right should be entertaining.

[Zlaxer]

I never said that they were "evil", but I did imply that it's completely hypocritical and self-serving. They've been playing the rubes against each other for membership dues and donations, and achieved a stratospheric level of success.

I'm just trying to show you that for all of the blame (scapegoating) placed on "mental health" involving gun violence, the chief advocate of gun ownership doesn't seem to take any interest in actually pursuing mental healthcare, or lobbying congress for same. You don't find that even a bit odd?

Stop strawmanning me into some insane caricature, like the rest of the gun-nuts. I don't give a fuck about your guns - I want you to take a balanced view of this issue.

There is nothing to be "balanced" - the Sandihook families should have no cause of action against the gun manufacturers.

And no - I don't find it odd that the NRA doesn't waste money and resources on mental health issues....it takes enough resources just to keep the gun grabbers at bay.....

Perhaps.. perhaps not. If it can be shown that they marketed specifically to young, violent kids, then there may be some liability - same as cigarette companies faced in the 80s.

I don't think it's a particularly important cross to hang on, but the inevitable mind-blowing by the Right should be entertaining.

You have no fucking clue about Sandihook do you? Do you even know why Adam was involved with weapons to begin with? Alleging that gun manufacturers specifically target violent minors is an asinine argument trumped up by a bunch a gun grabbing statists and money hungry lawyers...

You really think that there's enough crazy minors out there making up a large enough market share to justify spending $,$$$ on advertising? You're out of your mind.

[Dand]

They're just never going to let this crisis go to waste...

[Zlaxer]

They're just never going to let this crisis go to waste...

That's why those on the right no longer trust the left - they make up ridiculous arguments for activist judges to rule on....The ends justifies the means...FUCK'EM - I am no longer willing to seek common ground with them. Send them all to the Bear Republic.

[apeman]

Zlaxer 1, GCF 0

[Montegriffo]

They're just never going to let this crisis go to waste...

So, the best thing to do with a crisis is ignore it and just hope it never happens again?
The first step is to admit there's a problem. Unless you think high school massacres aren't a problem.

[Fife]

Zlaxer 1, GCF 0

Si.

When "balancing" your human rights means prior restraint, tell 'em all to stick that balance right up their asses.

No quarter.