Where's an Environmentalist when you need one

[Okeefenokee]

Oh, I realize money is a huge part of the equation. But you have to remember that the Environmentalists have been able to basically dismantle and destroy the Timber Industry, the Coal Industry, Grazing on Public Lands, most Mining on public lands and most access to public lands in this country. If they can do all that, restoring Detroit is kids play.

Now here's the thing where I agree with you. Can you get the political leaders of Detroit to do this at the cost of Tax dollars. This is where I want to the Greenies go after a Bill Gates and say, hey you offset this and we'll call Old Detroit Bill Gates Wildlife Sanctuary.

We both know that more important to them than actually cleaning up the environment is controlling rural Americans that have little to do with environmental pollution and degradation.

Environmental pollution and carbon emissions is something that blue states (especially coastal states) do while their leftist inhabitants blame the rest of America for it.

Well, I can't argue that. I was hoping some of our other team mates would come in here and discuss my Environmental Justice movement.

We're busy polluting.

[C-Mag]

Hey, props to Greenies for noting that the Oroville Dam needed maintenance 12 years ago. +1 on that Tree Huggers.
But, why didn't you bring a lawsuit against the Federalis ?

[Speaker to Animals]

Hey, props to Greenies for noting that the Oroville Dam needed maintenance 12 years ago. +1 on that Tree Huggers.
But, why didn't you bring a lawsuit against the Federalis ?

If the dam breaks, it will erase huge swaths of unsustainable farmland and remove a hundred thousand people from the area. Did it not occur to you some lefties can play a long game too?

This is a rewilding project now.

[C-Mag]

Hey, props to Greenies for noting that the Oroville Dam needed maintenance 12 years ago. +1 on that Tree Huggers.
But, why didn't you bring a lawsuit against the Federalis ?

If the dam breaks, it will erase huge swaths of unsustainable farmland and remove a hundred thousand people from the area. Did it not occur to you some lefties can play a long game too?

This is a rewilding project now.

We definitely need to decentralize much of the food production away from California, it's inefficient, wasteful and as you say unsustainable. But we also need to stop supporting these dense urban jungles in unsustainable locations like the frickin desert.

[Speaker to Animals]

Hey, props to Greenies for noting that the Oroville Dam needed maintenance 12 years ago. +1 on that Tree Huggers.
But, why didn't you bring a lawsuit against the Federalis ?

If the dam breaks, it will erase huge swaths of unsustainable farmland and remove a hundred thousand people from the area. Did it not occur to you some lefties can play a long game too?

This is a rewilding project now.

We definitely need to decentralize much of the food production away from California, it's inefficient, wasteful and as you say unsustainable. But we also need to stop supporting these dense urban jungles in unsustainable locations like the frickin desert.

Yep.

California needs to be depopulated to some extent as well. Either that, or they need to embrace lots of nuclear power and desalinization plants.

[C-Mag]

East of the Mississippi there are 3 million acres of Wilderness, West of the Mississippi there are 105 million acres of wilderness. No state east of the Mississippi reaches 1% of it's land mass in Wilderness. While in the West 13 of the 16 states have range between 1% and 52% Wilderness.

We need to balance our ecosystems out, not only to be fair to all states, but to increase viability of species, land returning to a natural productive ecosystem, etc. with lands east of the Mississippi. Including tearing down and restoring some of our most toxic and failed cities.

We need to do it for the children.

[Speaker to Animals]

East of the Mississippi there are 3 million acres of Wilderness, West of the Mississippi there are 105 million acres of wilderness. No state east of the Mississippi reaches 1% of it's land mass in Wilderness. While in the West 13 of the 16 states have range between 1% and 52% Wilderness.

We need to balance our ecosystems out, not only to be fair to all states, but to increase viability of species, land returning to a natural productive ecosystem, etc. with lands east of the Mississippi. Including tearing down and restoring some of our most toxic and failed cities.

We need to do it for the children.

There ain't no water out there, bro.



You see where shit turns brown? Everything west of the eastern edge of that brown spot (with the exception of the Northwestern region that is west of the Cascades) requires massive corporate and government subsidies for people to live there in large numbers. Even ranchers need the government to sustain them.

Stop moving people there.

[C-Mag]

East of the Mississippi there are 3 million acres of Wilderness, West of the Mississippi there are 105 million acres of wilderness. No state east of the Mississippi reaches 1% of it's land mass in Wilderness. While in the West 13 of the 16 states have range between 1% and 52% Wilderness.

We need to balance our ecosystems out, not only to be fair to all states, but to increase viability of species, land returning to a natural productive ecosystem, etc. with lands east of the Mississippi. Including tearing down and restoring some of our most toxic and failed cities.

We need to do it for the children.

There ain't no water out there, bro.


You see where shit turns brown? Everything west of the eastern edge of that brown spot (with the exception of the Northwestern region that is west of the Cascades) requires massive corporate and government subsidies for people to live there in large numbers. Even ranchers need the government to sustain them.

Stop moving people there.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the Government owning a majority of the land, turning it into Wilderness.
If it's OK to turn the entire Rocky Mountain Cooridor into Federal land and Wildernss, why not the entirety of the Appalachins ?

[Speaker to Animals]

East of the Mississippi there are 3 million acres of Wilderness, West of the Mississippi there are 105 million acres of wilderness. No state east of the Mississippi reaches 1% of it's land mass in Wilderness. While in the West 13 of the 16 states have range between 1% and 52% Wilderness.

We need to balance our ecosystems out, not only to be fair to all states, but to increase viability of species, land returning to a natural productive ecosystem, etc. with lands east of the Mississippi. Including tearing down and restoring some of our most toxic and failed cities.

We need to do it for the children.

There ain't no water out there, bro.


You see where shit turns brown? Everything west of the eastern edge of that brown spot (with the exception of the Northwestern region that is west of the Cascades) requires massive corporate and government subsidies for people to live there in large numbers. Even ranchers need the government to sustain them.

Stop moving people there.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the Government owning a majority of the land, turning it into Wilderness.
If it's OK to turn the entire Rocky Mountain Cooridor into Federal land and Wildernss, why not the entirety of the Appalachins ?

It has absolutely everything to do with why the federal government controls that land.

[C-Mag]

There ain't no water out there, bro.


You see where shit turns brown? Everything west of the eastern edge of that brown spot (with the exception of the Northwestern region that is west of the Cascades) requires massive corporate and government subsidies for people to live there in large numbers. Even ranchers need the government to sustain them.

Stop moving people there.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the Government owning a majority of the land, turning it into Wilderness.
If it's OK to turn the entire Rocky Mountain Cooridor into Federal land and Wildernss, why not the entirety of the Appalachins ?

It has absolutely everything to do with why the federal government controls that land.

No, absolutely not. And it infringes upon the self determination of the Western states and its citizens. Here is a simple example of why your hypothesis is wrong. Alaska has more water than most of the lower 48 combined and it's 52% Wilderness and 61% Federally owned. The Cascade Range has as much moisture as anywhere in the lower 48, why are you ok with the Feds owning that but not Apppalachia, the Smokies or the Adriondacks ?