Europe, Boring Until it's Not

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:24 pm

It took Obama about four months to fill his cabinet.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:25 pm

http://www.vox.com/world/2017/2/19/1466 ... ttack-fake
Saturday night, President Donald Trump held a rally in Melbourne, Florida, where he attempted to defend his controversial “Muslim ban” executive order by pointing to the consequences of migration in Europe. He focused on an unspecified event that took place “last night in Sweden:”

When you look at what’s happening in Germany, when you look at what’s happening last night in Sweden — Sweden! Who would believe this? Sweden! They took in large numbers, they’re having problems like they never thought possible.

The only problem is that nothing happened the prior night in Sweden. The Swedish daily Aftonbladet quickly compiled a list of of noteworthy things that happened on Friday; they included a drunken-driving arrest and “some technical problems” during 87-year-old crooner Owe Thörnqvist’s rehearsal prior to the Melodifestivalen song competition.

It seemed like Trump, in the grand tradition of the Bowling Green Massacre, simply invented a terrorist attack allegedly committed by immigrants out of whole cloth.

The reaction was swift and confused. @Sweden, a national Twitter account run by a different Swedish citizen each week, denied that anything happened. Former Swedish Prime Minister Carl Bildt tweeted “Sweden? Terror attack? What has he been smoking?” Ikea and Abba jokes flew fast and furious using the hashtag #SwedenIncident:

"There were legs everywhere" - eyewitness. #SwedenIncident pic.twitter.com/XMeIlaW1Px
❄️Elle (@TrickOrTreackle) February 19, 2017

Millions are suffering from free healthcare, superb education, well-engineered cars, and awesome meatballs. #PrayForSweden #swedenincident
— Rev. Dr. J. Liam Fox (@JmsWmFox) February 19, 2017
Fake news indeed.
Now that just looks desperate......
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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:27 pm

#Malmo

Stop lying Sven, we have Internet you know.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:49 pm

What, this one?
The Trump Administration was previously criticized in Sweden earlier this month for claiming that there was an under-reported terrorist attack in Malmo, Sweden in October 2016. According to The Local, Trump’s team was likely referring to an arson attack that caused smoke damage to a building used by an Iraqi cultural group.

In December, The Local reported that a judge determined that it was not terror-related, even though ISIS claimed responsibility for it.
Or this one?
As The New York Times points out, Horowitz told Carlson, “Sweden had its first terrorist Islamic attack not that long ago, so they’re now getting a taste of what we’ve been seeing across Europe already.”

It’s not clear what Horowitz was referring to. There was a suicide bomber attack in 2010 in Stockholm, carried out by a Swedish citizen born in Iraq who followed Al Qaeda. However, this attack was five years before the current wave of refugees from the Middle East arrived.

Trump later confirmed on Twitter that he was referencing Carlson’s interview with Horowitz.
However...
The wave of refugees entering Sweden came as more were pouring into all of Europe to escape the Syrian Civil War and fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. Since Sweden was taking in many of these refugees, the country was the victim of “Swedish bashing,” as the Swedish Institute put it just a day before Trump’s comments.

“Much of the reporting was factual and true. There was a clear news story, people wanted to portray how Europe and Sweden could manage so many refugees at one time,” political scientist Henrik Selin at the Swedish Institute. “But we also saw, and we have seen since then, that there are other forces; people whose political agenda suggests they would like to tell the story of countries not being able to receive that many refugees, who seem to want to exaggerate problems.”

Selin suggested that politicians throughout Europe were using any bit of negative news coming out of Sweden as an excuse to support strict refugee policies.

“Sweden is a country that wants to have an influence in the world, and we do not want to be a country that is used for other political purposes,” Selin told Radio Sweden. “There are countries who’d like Sweden to be an element in their story about a failed state. It is not in our interest to support those kinds of stories that are not true.”

“I do not have a clue what [Trump] was referring to,” Selin told the New York Times on February 19. “Obviously, this could be connected to the fact that there has been a lot of negative reporting about Sweden, since Sweden has taken in a lot of refugees.”
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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:53 pm



M8. Stop it.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by ssu » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:00 pm

Montegriffo wrote:Not only having trouble filling his cabinet, also having problems controlling those in position....
Is Trump in control of the White House? And anyway, I think Trump has even said that he's OK if some Mattis doesn't allways have the same opinion as he does.

What the Trump administration actually does is the thing to look at.

To follow what Trump says and tweets is simply confusing. He should get more sleep.

And the Sweden thing? Well, Trump has explained himself: he was watching Fox News. So he just got confused. Or it's more like a figurative speach thing, like that he had the biggest landslide victory since Reagan, or whatever.

At least he's not boring.
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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:03 pm

You'll have to tell me what that is Nuke, I don't have the bandwidth to watch it.
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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:05 pm

Go to YouTube and search "malmo riots." When you get the bandwidth of course.

Trump called out the problems Germany and Sweden are having with their refugee influx. Just be honest about it m8.

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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by Montegriffo » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:14 pm

ssu wrote: Is Trump in control of the White House? .
Doesn't appear so.
And the Sweden thing? Well, Trump has explained himself: he was watching Fox News. So he just got confused. Or it's more like a figurative speech thing, like that he had the biggest landslide victory since Reagan, or whatever.
But referencing an event which was 5 years before the current refugee influx and making out that it was a result of current immigration policies......that just looks like....... FAKE NEWS.
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Re: Europe Boring Until it's Not

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:38 pm


Ezra Levant is a great man.