SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

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Post by Montegriffo » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:55 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:56 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:51 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:46 am
About 1.79 here.

We have pretty fucking awful gas taxes, though.
Pah, it's still around £6 a gallon here. You have no idea what high gas taxes are.
However, Gaia approves.
You really don't need vehicles that much in most of the UK (or, at least, most Britons don't need to to drive as much compared to Americans). There is no way we could pay that much for gas here without major economic turmoil. We could probably gradually get there over many years, but it would have to be really slow and we'd have to adapt society to it.
A quick google tells me that the average miles driven in the UK is around 7000 miles a year compared to 12000 in the US.
However, the UK average is down from 9200 in 2002 so perhaps it has had the desired effect. The Tories under John Major started the ''fuel tax escalator'' in 1993. The above-inflation increases in tax were over just 6 years and were stopped by New Labour in 1999 and since 2011 there have been no increases at all.
Average mileage is still falling year on year, however more cars on the road mean that the total miles driven have continued to go up but I don't know if this is in line with increases in population or not. It might just be a result of more 2 car families spreading the mileage over the 2 vehicles.
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Re: SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:59 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:55 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:56 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:51 am


Pah, it's still around £6 a gallon here. You have no idea what high gas taxes are.
However, Gaia approves.
You really don't need vehicles that much in most of the UK (or, at least, most Britons don't need to to drive as much compared to Americans). There is no way we could pay that much for gas here without major economic turmoil. We could probably gradually get there over many years, but it would have to be really slow and we'd have to adapt society to it.
A quick google tells me that the average miles driven in the UK is around 7000 miles a year compared to 12000 in the US.
However, the UK average is down from 9200 in 2002 so perhaps it has had the desired effect. The Tories under John Major started the ''fuel tax escalator'' in 1993. The above-inflation increases in tax were over just 6 years and were stopped by New Labour in 1999.
Average mileage is still falling year on year, however more cars on the road mean that the total miles driven have continued to go up but I don't know if this is in line with increases in population or not. It might just be a result of more 2 car families spreading the mileage over the 2 vehicles.
It has to do with post-war urban planning in the United States. We built up all these cities and towns around the idea of every family having a car. There is not easy way to live in America without a vehicle and, even so, all the shit you need to do is spread out pretty far compared to Europe.

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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:03 pm

Fuck taking the bus, I love driving

Come and take this whip from my cold dead hands
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:05 pm

Public transportation is a death sentence in the Covfefe Death. Who's laughing now, England??

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Post by Montegriffo » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:06 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:59 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:55 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:56 am


You really don't need vehicles that much in most of the UK (or, at least, most Britons don't need to to drive as much compared to Americans). There is no way we could pay that much for gas here without major economic turmoil. We could probably gradually get there over many years, but it would have to be really slow and we'd have to adapt society to it.
A quick google tells me that the average miles driven in the UK is around 7000 miles a year compared to 12000 in the US.
However, the UK average is down from 9200 in 2002 so perhaps it has had the desired effect. The Tories under John Major started the ''fuel tax escalator'' in 1993. The above-inflation increases in tax were over just 6 years and were stopped by New Labour in 1999.
Average mileage is still falling year on year, however more cars on the road mean that the total miles driven have continued to go up but I don't know if this is in line with increases in population or not. It might just be a result of more 2 car families spreading the mileage over the 2 vehicles.
It has to do with post-war urban planning in the United States. We built up all these cities and towns around the idea of every family having a car. There is not easy way to live in America without a vehicle and, even so, all the shit you need to do is spread out pretty far compared to Europe.
Some better public transport such as trains for the daily commute would help and vastly reduce the time spent in traffic jams but there's no incentive to do that when your politicians are controlled by the oil lobby.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:07 pm

I can't even stand being the passenger in a car

The only person I let drive is my wife

because her daddy is a race car driver too, so she learned from a pro

And that's only when I have to take a nap, otherwise I drive all the way

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Post by Montegriffo » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:08 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:05 pm
Public transportation is a death sentence in the Covfefe Death. Who's laughing now, England??
Shouldn't really be basing transport policies on once in a century pandemics though should we?
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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:13 pm

I didn't even use the TTC much in Toronto

I just biked everywhere like the bike couriers, or I walked all the way

The only bus rides I liked were in the army, party bus with all your homies
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Re: SARS Pt. 2 - Wuhan Boogaloo

Post by StCapps » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:13 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:08 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:05 pm
Public transportation is a death sentence in the Covfefe Death. Who's laughing now, England??
Shouldn't really be basing transport policies on once in a century pandemics though should we?
Indeed, however there are plenty of other reasons why public transportation sucks
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Post by Montegriffo » Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:18 pm

StCapps wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:13 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:08 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:05 pm
Public transportation is a death sentence in the Covfefe Death. Who's laughing now, England??
Shouldn't really be basing transport policies on once in a century pandemics though should we?
Indeed, however there are plenty of other reasons why public transportation sucks
...and even more reasons why it is essential.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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