Poking the Bear Again

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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:35 pm

the Neoconservatives were the Democrats who were teenagers when JFK was President

when the Democrats went further left, with Humphrey, McGovern & Jimmy Carter

those JFK Boomer Democrats flipped to Ronald Reagan
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:38 pm

same thing happened with Trump

after being screwed by the Neoliberals, Clinton, Bush & Obama, a large cohort of Democrats flipped to Trump
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:38 pm

Bill Kristol’s “The Weekly Standard” is certainly NeoCon; they call themselves “NeoCons;” and by your definition, they act like NeoLiberals.
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Post by Martin Hash » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:40 pm

You’re calling so-called “Reagan Democrats” NeoCons; I’d never heard that.
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Martin Hash » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:44 pm

I was a “Trump Democrat.”
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:47 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:40 pm
You’re calling so-called “Reagan Democrats” NeoCons. I’d never heard that.
if you prefer the Millennial definition of "NeoCon" which basically just means "Bad Guys", then I can't stop you

you will be as stupid as a Millennial then, but I can't save you from yourself
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:53 pm

Boomer, Neocon, Fascist

the Millennials throw these words around as pejoratives, but they have no idea what they mean

they all mean the same thing to idiot Millennials : "Bad People"

Millennials are still like little children, even into their thirties, arrested development generation

they are mostly miseducated, more brainwashed than they are schooled

school was indoctrination camp for them, and all their fragmented knowledge is from the internet

they have no culture of their own, they have no history, they have no knowledge

they just have fragments taken from the Boomers & Gen X which they picked up here & there on the internet

this whole generation has been fucked up by the internet, they are literally retarded
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Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:09 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:44 pm
I was a “Trump Democrat.”
for the exact same Neoconservative reason

in 1980 it was because the Democrats were soft on the Soviets

in 2016 it was because the Democrats were soft on the Chinese

whenever the Democrats start to appease the Communists, that's when Reagan Democrats flip to the GOP

that was MAGA in 1980, that was MAGA in 2016, MAGA is Neoconservatism incarnate

Clinton, Bush, Obama, they are all New World Order Neoliberals

Cold War's over, Fukuyama's End of History, America as the hyperpower being all things to all people

Trump was a return to the old Cold War Neoconservatism, except now the New Cold War is against China
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Re: Poking the Bear Again

Post by Hastur » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:48 am

I suspect the reason the EU and the US don't see eye to eye on Ukraine is because the tactic is different. The EU wants to bring all the old Eastern European countries into the liberal democratic European community. The endgame is to bring in Russia as well through ideological osmosis.

The Americans are more pragmatic. They just want to contain Russia. They will surround the entire country with failed, destabilized states if they have to. A ring of rubble. That is the future that I predict for Ukraine. Like Chechnya, just bigger.
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Post by Hastur » Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:05 am

If you want to know what regions might experience "unrest" in the near future look at a map like this.

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For example the part of China that those pipeline projects are heading into is the province of Xinjiang, you know where the Uyghurs live. Funny how that works.
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