Income Inequality

[Fife]

Just some rudimentary explanation of how you say that a man's labor belongs to his master rather than to himself.

You're a budding Che Guevara!

LULZ. So you have no argument to support stealing a dead man's property. Roger that.

[Martin Hash]

Dead men can't own property. Dude, didn't you learn about probate?

[Fife]

Is it too late for you to ask for a refund?

[Okeefenokee]

In a Liberty society, we are allies but only as long as being an ally is better than not. If you're born into a dynasty while I'm part of the Welfare Class, it seems unlikely there will be any alliance between us.

I understand that you're well off. Were you always?

White Trash but America worked for me. Ask most Millennials, that ain't so true anymore. Liberty needs opportunity, and most opportunity follows wealth.

So you weren't always well off, but now you are. Is that accurate?

I'm not concerned with asking millenials what they think is true. I'm a millenial. America has worked for me.

That opportunity follows wealth is not a profound proverb. What is more applicable is what precedes opportunity. We don't choose where we come from, only where we go. There are paths to opportunity, and after that can come wealth, or at the very least comfort and happiness.

But, if I read you correctly, you already know that. Going from white trash to white wealth ought to have left you with the understanding that opportunity can flow from founts other than being born into wealth.

When I was little I got a Commodore 64 from my uncle. If anyone flushed the toilet while it was turned on, the well pump kicking on would blow a fuse and the lights would go out. I'm typing this on a two thousand dollar PC I built. Opportunity did not flow from wealth in my case.

And that's where I disagree with you. You say a lot about what needs to be done so that those without don't rise up against those with. I agree that there are people who don't have who resent those who do, but I'm not one of them. I don't think we live in a dystopian world where those who start without have no path to opportunity. That seems like something out of the middle ages to me.

I have my own bias from my own experience, from where I'm sitting, all it comes down to is a willingness to work. That was the only lesson I had to learn. I was standing in a gun turret on the Iran-Iraq border looking for weapon smugglers with nothing but time to think, and I realized the only thing that had landed me there and not in a comfy office job was my unwillingness to work when I was in school. After that it was all gravy.

I resolved to put in the work, and it paid off. That was all it took. I go to school now with tons of kids who haven't learned that yet. They have a mantra that I deride them for, "C's get degrees." These millenials that you mention that are unsatisfied in their outcomes sound like the slackers that I know. I also know the ones that are prescient enough to know better. I seek them out at the start of every new course. Reliably, they are the ones who also make certain that they are seated in the front row.

So that's why I don't get on board with this idea that it is the obligation of the ones who have seized opportunity to placate those who are unwilling to do so. I know better. I know that I am living a much more comfortable life than the one I grew up in, and I know that it didn't require being born into an aristocracy. I think you ought to know that too.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

It is all fine and good to talk about boot-strapping gumption, but there is a point where hard work won't make up for the fact you are a natural born cock-sucker in an economy that only values ass-play.

Complain about the unfairness of it all until you are blue in the face, but Hash is right... you got to do something to keep the cock-suckers in line.

[SuburbanFarmer]

How the hell did you manage to spend $2,000 on a pc? Lol

[TheOneX]

How the hell did you manage to spend $2,000 on a pc? Lol

Any bleeding edge PC will cost a minimum of $2,000. The top of the line GPU and CPU by themselves will get you to $2,000. That doesn't include the tower, motherboard, RAM, etc.

[SilverEagle]

It is all fine and good to talk about boot-strapping gumption, but there is a point where hard work won't make up for the fact you are a natural born cock-sucker in an economy that only values ass-play.

Complain about the unfairness of it all until you are blue in the face, but Hash is right... you got to do something to keep the cock-suckers in line.

Quality of life increases due to technical advancements is their main justification for the rape of the middle and lower classes. Oh but poor people can watch World Cup matches on TV so it's all good! The poor are just like the rich because they can see a World Cup match! That podcast was total crap! We (as a society) have been bought off by gadgets, gizmos, and told by the elites to STFU.

In 1965 the CEO to average worker pay ratio was 65 to 1. It's now 300 to 1. That's all you really need to know about income inequality.

[Martin Hash]

So that's why I don't get on board with this idea that it is the obligation of the ones who have seized opportunity to placate those who are unwilling to do so. I know better. I know that I am living a much more comfortable life than the one I grew up in, and I know that it didn't require being born into an aristocracy.

The most likely scenario of increasing Wealth Inequality is socialism, not revolution, and socialism seems the worst of the two if you got no place to go for liberty.

"A quarter of the population pulls everyone else along but only 1% get the spoils." - me

[SuburbanFarmer]

How the hell did you manage to spend $2,000 on a pc? Lol

Any bleeding edge PC will cost a minimum of $2,000. The top of the line GPU and CPU by themselves will get you to $2,000. That doesn't include the tower, motherboard, RAM, etc.

That's true... But why would you ever do that? You can get 95% of the performance for half the price. That's like buying the next Madden game at $65, instead of waiting a month and getting it for $30.