The Right and the Left need each other - debate

[Smitty-48]

Damn, I'm not on anyone's forum just because I like them. I'm here to have informed discussions. What's your motive here? The point of the forum is to discuss, not throw "fuck yous" at each other. Don't mind at all if you do, but let's get beyond that. That's grade school rhetoric.

I work for Marty Hash, if you have a complaint, talk to the boss. See how that works out for you.

"The boss" has no responsibility for the rhetoric of anyone other than himself. You're failing to move beyond the issue I'm describing. But ok, let's leave it there and move on.

The boss says Marty Hash Country is Liberty Nation, Hurly Burly in effect, I post for my keep, and take him at his word therein, and I have no complaints, so what's the problem?

[BjornP]

I never said I don't defend the bougeoise, I stand on the trace between them and the wolves, have all my adult life in fact, but when they start jibber jabbering as a bunch of Cultural Marxists calling for the overthrow of Westphalian Sovereingty therein, I can't take them seriously, and if they take that shit to the streets, then HM jackboots they shall taste, but so long as they are standing to attention for the Commander-in-Chief's adress, that's all good, by all means, click's those heels together, classical liberals, well done.

So long as they are counterevolutionary against the Commune, they have my protection, as soon as they start chirriping like Bolshies, they're gonna get a shot upside the mouth for it, who knew?

Again. Bourgeoise is just the word for the class. That progressives, or even "Bolshies", nearly exclusively come from this class does not equate one with the other. Its like arguing based on the assumption that all proles must be Socialist. Or, deplorable Trump voters if we're writing from US accusatory progressive's POV. And if there were actual Marxist revolutionaries on our streets, too, I'd get called in and happily kill them too. And I'm no Conservative voter.

[Martin Hash]

No-Holds-Barred Smitty is throwing roundhouses.

p.s. Nickle, you need to practice against this style of debate attack. (Hint: pleading is a no-no.)

[SuburbanFarmer]

No-Holds-Barred Smitty is throwing roundhouses.

p.s. Nickle, you need to practice against this style of debate attack. (Hint: pleading is a no-no.)

Yeah, there's no compromising when he's like this. Either ignore or hit back with some ridiculous rhetoric until he calms down.

[nickle7]

No-Holds-Barred Smitty is throwing roundhouses.

p.s. Nickle, you need to practice against this style of debate attack. (Hint: pleading is a no-no.)

Ha, I guess I'm still getting my boots on...

[Smitty-48]

Again. Bourgeoise is just the word for the class. That progressives, or even "Bolshies", nearly exclusively come from this class does not equate one with the other.

Never said they didn't, but if they don't want to be treated like Bolshies, then they should stick to their lane instead of fronting as Bolshies, they jibber jabber about the class struggle of the proletriat at their peril, because there is no such fucking thing here, and they are just using it to leverage for the public sector unionized Left, at which point, alls fair in love and politics, if they get it upside the head with HM jackboots, don't come crying to me, if they don't want the jackboots, they can get back in their lane in front of the tv at attention for the Commander-in-Chief, perfectly welcome to be Monarchists, but Bolshevism is not at all welcome in a Monarchy, whoever said it was?

As soon as they veer off into any sort of Marxist-Leninist tropes, we've got them by the balls, and we of course are going to take out our Hanoverian riot batons, and bludgeon those balls black and blue, why wouldn't we? Not only effective politics, but also great sport, wot? Win-Win.

[Speaker to Animals]

Ok, take out the "amen. Seriously" part... Better?

No how about you and Bjorn stop playing the virtue signaling game and form some real arguments.

Ok, make an argument that polarization is beneficial then. All I'm saying is that it's not constructive or indicative of a healthy society. I'd be interested in your argument against that.

I will make an argument against the empty posturing which is nothing more than vacuous virtue signaling at its worst: Bjorn didn't post anything substantive. His post read like a hipster complaining about all the people at the scene who listen to music the hipster thinks is crappy, but of course the hipster listens to only the latest, best music that nobody heard of before (since if everybody heard of it, he'd move on). Bjorn offered no position on anything other than that he is this enlightened one who is superior to the rabble who take sides in the culture war. You chimed in with a "me too! I am one of the smart ones too!"

People have grown to absolutely despise this kind of virtue signaling behavior.

Take a side. Defend it.

[nickle7]

No how about you and Bjorn stop playing the virtue signaling game and form some real arguments.

Ok, make an argument that polarization is beneficial then. All I'm saying is that it's not constructive or indicative of a healthy society. I'd be interested in your argument against that.

I will make an argument against the empty posturing which is nothing more than vacuous virtue signaling at its worst: Bjorn didn't post anything substantive. His post read like a hipster complaining about all the people at the scene who listen to music the hipster thinks is crappy, but of course the hipster listens to only the latest, best music that nobody heard of before (since if everybody heard of it, he'd move on). Bjorn offered no position on anything other than that he is this enlightened one who is superior to the rabble who take sides in the culture war. You chimed in with a "me too! I am one of the smart ones too!"

People have grown to absolutely despise this kind of virtue signaling behavior.

Take a side. Defend it.

I've taken a side... the side Bjorn laid out. We're going down a rabbit hole, one that's devolving into vacuous discussion, exactly what you're preaching against.

I've stated my claim- polarization is vacuous and regressive. I'd suggest we move forward by examining this point or stop altogether.

[Smitty-48]

I've stated my claim- polarization is vacuous and regressive. I'd suggest we move forward by examining this point or stop altogether.

You can stop anytime, who needs you? No one is forcing you into the Hurly Burly, step away as you please, big mean Hurly Burly rolls on without you.

[nickle7]

I've stated my claim- polarization is vacuous and regressive. I'd suggest we move forward by examining this point or stop altogether.

You can stop anytime, who needs you? No one is forcing you into the Hurly Burly, step away as you please, big mean Hurly Burly rolls on without you.

Truly oh great Smitty, I'm in awe of your capacity to engage in the actual topics at hand...