Current US Military

[StCapps]

Don’t blame “Americans” for this. It’s your government - not the people.

You want to change it, you’ll need to storm the White House.

The people voted for that government, they are to blame, it's not just the politicians, it's the people who voted for those politicians. Trying to only blame the government while letting "Americans" off the hook, that's a scapegoat.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Don’t blame “Americans” for this. It’s your government - not the people.

You want to change it, you’ll need to storm the White House.

The people voted for that government, they are to blame, it's not just the politicians, it's the people who voted for those politicians. Trying to only blame the government while letting "Americans" off the hook, that's a scapegoat.

As I’ve said 100x now, there is NEVER a “quit foreign wars” option on the ballot. Trump was supposed to do that, remember? And before him, Obama was going to.

[Smitty-48]

Everybody's military is a clusterfuck, it's not like the Russians or Chinese could fight their way out of a wet paper bag, so I wouldn't worry about it.

[StCapps]

Don’t blame “Americans” for this. It’s your government - not the people.

You want to change it, you’ll need to storm the White House.

The people voted for that government, they are to blame, it's not just the politicians, it's the people who voted for those politicians. Trying to only blame the government while letting "Americans" off the hook, that's a scapegoat.

As I’ve said 100x now, there is NEVER a “quit foreign wars” option on the ballot. Trump was supposed to do that, remember? And before him, Obama was going to.

The reason it isn't on the ballot, is because most Americans don't want the option. Americans did not vote for Obama and Trump because they promised to end the wars, captain projection. Obama and Trump just said they were going to fight the important wars instead, neither were ever isolationists, you got fooled by rhetoric that appeals to your sensibilities and mistook for something most Americans knew they were not.
/shrugs

[SuburbanFarmer]

The people voted for that government, they are to blame, it's not just the politicians, it's the people who voted for those politicians. Trying to only blame the government while letting "Americans" off the hook, that's a scapegoat.

As I’ve said 100x now, there is NEVER a “quit foreign wars” option on the ballot. Trump was supposed to do that, remember? And before him, Obama was going to.

The reason it isn't on the ballot, is because most Americans don't want the option. Americans did not vote for Obama and Trump because they promised to end the wars, captain projection.
/shrugs

Right, so each candidate says that because it’s unpopular. That makes sense.

[StCapps]

As I’ve said 100x now, there is NEVER a “quit foreign wars” option on the ballot. Trump was supposed to do that, remember? And before him, Obama was going to.

The reason it isn't on the ballot, is because most Americans don't want the option. Americans did not vote for Obama and Trump because they promised to end the wars, captain projection.
/shrugs

Right, so each candidate says that because it’s unpopular. That makes sense.

They never promised to end the foreign wars, they promised to refocus on fighting the right foreign wars, big difference, you are just easily fooled into thinking a political candidate who says some things that you like somehow thinks exactly like you do on the matter, they don't. You were projecting on Obama and Trump and now act shocked when they didn't turn out to be what you thought they were, but that's because you weren't paying attention and filled in the blanks with wishful thinking.

[Martin Hash]

Trump DID promise to end foreign wars. I still think he's giving it a shot when he can but it seems impossible.

[StCapps]

Trump DID promise to end foreign wars. I still think he's giving it a shot when he can but it seems impossible.

He also promised to bomb the shit out of ISIS. How easily the rubes forget so they can live in a wishful thinking fantasy bubble, Trump never was a non-interventionist when it comes to American foreign policy, y'all are just easily fooled by a few nice sounding words, and then you ignore the things he said which contradict the view you have of Trump in your head. Wake up.

[Martin Hash]

“Good luck to the new guy,” is fine.

[Smitty-48]

Saying "end foreign wars" is easy, giving up the imperial hubris, pork in the districts, and want to be treated as a hyperpower with no equals; whole nother ball game.

If you make it a simple binary, the American electorate will give the easy answer, if you actually tried to execute, with all the humble pie ramifications therein, they would buck the rider.

Just scratch the surface, and the triumphalist imperial hubris and want what we want when we want it, is right there where it's been the whole time.

That's pretty much the American electorate in a nutshell, they want to have their cake and it eat it too, who knew?