The Right and the Left need each other - debate

[Smitty-48]

As opposed to the type of dialogue and ideas Dan puts out. Like Dave Rubin puts out. Like Sam Harris puts out. The list goes on. Moving to Canada doesn't solve anything. I'm having this dialogue because I'd like more civility injected into our national dialogue. I'm not saying kumbaya. We need ruthless debate, but it better be logical. Mudslinging gets no one anywhere.

Yeah, well, this is the Marty Hash Forum, so fuck Dan Carlin, fuck Dave Rubin, and fuck Sam Harris too, if you like them so much, go hang out over at their forums then, this forum here, is Marty Hash Country, Liberty Nation, Hurly Burly in effect, no holds barred, who knew?

[BjornP]

Most people being bourgeois at this point, and so not inclined to make any history, as courage of convictions ultimately mandates the resolve to kill and die for ones principles therein, if you find those people so not inclined to be relevant to the arc of history, I can't imagine why, but to each his own I guess.

Borgeois revolution to change the arc of history? No such thing.

Their "real world" only exists in a sheltered bubble behind walls manned by far sterner stuff indeed, without those walls manned, the real world would cook them in a pot and eat them.

Quite frankly, all these wishy washy pissant jib jabbering panty waists ultimately owe their comfortable existence therein to Mr. Teller and his Hydrogen Bomb, without that, we might just have to drive them to the front, kicking and screaming or otherwise.

Bourgeois is the middle class, Smitty. Those who lived within the city walls. The burgh. The way you keep using that word, is the way Communist hippies use it: As a condescending word, as an anti-capitalist swearword. So rather, God Bless the Bourgeoise. They brought the world capitalism, the Enlightenment, (classical) Liberalism, American Revolution, the French Revolution (the better parts of it, anyway). What you're describing are what we in Denmark would call "culture radicals"*, something akin to progressives in N. America. My family was proper bourgeoise: Shopkeeper (butcher), Liberal-Conservative, understanding that the citizen had both duties and obligations as well as freedoms; monarchists: had to stand up in front of the television when the Queen held her New Years Eve address, and sing the national anthem along with the choir in the TV when she finished. That's bourgeoise, Smitty.

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_radicalism

[TheReal_ND]

Lol fuck liberals and shiet. Bunch of undercover commies trying to ship the whole third world into my fucking Walmarts.

[kybkh]

A great feature of this election is we get to see if the republicans can come through via policy. They have no obstacles to making massive changes at every level of society.

[nickle7]

As opposed to the type of dialogue and ideas Dan puts out. Like Dave Rubin puts out. Like Sam Harris puts out. The list goes on. Moving to Canada doesn't solve anything. I'm having this dialogue because I'd like more civility injected into our national dialogue. I'm not saying kumbaya. We need ruthless debate, but it better be logical. Mudslinging gets no one anywhere.

Yeah, well, this is the Marty Hash Forum, so fuck Dan Carlin, fuck Dave Rubin, and fuck Sam Harris too, if you like them so much, go hang out over at their forums then, this forum here, is Marty Hash Country, Liberty Nation, Hurly Burly in effect, no holds barred therein, who knew?

Damn, I'm not on anyone's forum just because I like them. I'm here to have informed discussions. What's your motive here? The point of the forum is to discuss, not throw "fuck yous" at each other. Don't mind at all if you do, but let's get beyond that. That's grade school rhetoric.

[Smitty-48]

Bourgeois is the middle class, Smitty. Those who lived within the city walls. The burgh. The way you keep using that word, is the way Communist hippies use it: As a condescending word, as an anti-capitalist swearword. So rather, God Bless the Bourgeoise. They brought the world capitalism, the Enlightenment, (classical) Liberalism, American Revolution, the French Revolution (the better parts of it, anyway). What you're describing are what we in Denmark would call "culture radicals"*, something akin to progressives in N. America. My family was proper bourgeoise: Shopkeeper (butcher), Liberal-Conservative, understanding that the citizen had both duties and obligations as well as freedoms; monarchists: had to stand up in front of the television when the Queen held her New Years Eve address, and sing the national anthem along with the choir in the TV when she finished. That's bourgeoise, Smitty.

I never said I don't defend the bougeoise, I stand on the trace between them and the wolves, have all my adult life in fact, but when they start jibber jabbering as a bunch of Cultural Marxists calling for the overthrow of Westphalian Sovereingty therein, I can't take them seriously, and if they take that shit to the streets, then HM jackboots they shall taste, but so long as they are standing to attention for the Commander-in-Chief's adress, that's all good, by all means, click's those heels together, classical liberals, well done.

So long as they are counterevolutionary against the Commune, they have my protection, as soon as they start chirriping like Bolshies, they're gonna get a shot upside the mouth for it, who knew?

[BjornP]

Oh please. Enough virtue signaling, already.

Ok, take out the "amen. Seriously" part... Better?

No how about you and Bjorn stop playing the virtue signaling game and form some real arguments.

Oh no, a whiny neo-adolescent cuckold whose "arguments" are best described as jamming his arm far up his own ass, flinging his own shit at other posters and declaring: "You're full of shit", then leaving, just said I didn't know how to form an argument. I am clearly beat.

[Smitty-48]

As opposed to the type of dialogue and ideas Dan puts out. Like Dave Rubin puts out. Like Sam Harris puts out. The list goes on. Moving to Canada doesn't solve anything. I'm having this dialogue because I'd like more civility injected into our national dialogue. I'm not saying kumbaya. We need ruthless debate, but it better be logical. Mudslinging gets no one anywhere.

Yeah, well, this is the Marty Hash Forum, so fuck Dan Carlin, fuck Dave Rubin, and fuck Sam Harris too, if you like them so much, go hang out over at their forums then, this forum here, is Marty Hash Country, Liberty Nation, Hurly Burly in effect, no holds barred therein, who knew?

Damn, I'm not on anyone's forum just because I like them. I'm here to have informed discussions. What's your motive here? The point of the forum is to discuss, not throw "fuck yous" at each other. Don't mind at all if you do, but let's get beyond that. That's grade school rhetoric.

I work for Marty Hash, if you have a complaint, talk to the boss. See how that works out for you.

[nickle7]

Oh please. Enough virtue signaling, already.

Ok, take out the "amen. Seriously" part... Better?

No how about you and Bjorn stop playing the virtue signaling game and form some real arguments.

Ok, make an argument that polarization is beneficial then. All I'm saying is that it's not constructive or indicative of a healthy society. I'd be interested in your argument against that.

[nickle7]

Yeah, well, this is the Marty Hash Forum, so fuck Dan Carlin, fuck Dave Rubin, and fuck Sam Harris too, if you like them so much, go hang out over at their forums then, this forum here, is Marty Hash Country, Liberty Nation, Hurly Burly in effect, no holds barred therein, who knew?

Damn, I'm not on anyone's forum just because I like them. I'm here to have informed discussions. What's your motive here? The point of the forum is to discuss, not throw "fuck yous" at each other. Don't mind at all if you do, but let's get beyond that. That's grade school rhetoric.

I work for Marty Hash, if you have a complaint, talk to the boss. See how that works out for you.

"The boss" has no responsibility for the rhetoric of anyone other than himself. You're failing to move beyond the issue I'm describing. But ok, let's leave it there and move on.