Vault 7 - Happening

[The Conservative]

McAfee reacts quickly to Vault 7 doc dump and releases a program to detect if the CIA has access to your computer.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3179348/ ... 61342414=1
McAfee has been a very outspoken critic against this type of government spying. Note:He has said he will never commit suicide


Not a computer nerd, so if I got any of that wrong, please make it more accurate.

I am, but honestly, McAfee needs to watch what he says... his own systems have allowed the CIA easy access to computers... but meh...what do I know.

[SuburbanFarmer]

McAfee reacts quickly to Vault 7 doc dump and releases a program to detect if the CIA has access to your computer.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3179348/ ... 61342414=1
McAfee has been a very outspoken critic against this type of government spying. Note:He has said he will never commit suicide


Not a computer nerd, so if I got any of that wrong, please make it more accurate.

I am, but honestly, McAfee needs to watch what he says... his own systems have allowed the CIA easy access to computers... but meh...what do I know.

"We recommend generating an EFI 'whitelist' after purchasing a system or when sure it hasn’t been infected," the Intel Security researchers said in a blog post. "Then check EFI firmware on your system periodically or whenever concerned, such as when a laptop was left unattended."

Even if you download a new EFI from the manufacturer, how the hell do you know it's not already infected? This smacks of more kabuki theater.

I have absolutely no idea how we can ever restore "privacy" to personal computing. Even if you defunded the CIA, their programs would just jump to another agency. Plus the NSA has everything fucking tapped anywa- FUCKKKKKKKKK

I can't let myself think about this stuff too much anymore. It drives me insane.

[The Conservative]

McAfee reacts quickly to Vault 7 doc dump and releases a program to detect if the CIA has access to your computer.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3179348/ ... 61342414=1
McAfee has been a very outspoken critic against this type of government spying. Note:He has said he will never commit suicide


Not a computer nerd, so if I got any of that wrong, please make it more accurate.

I am, but honestly, McAfee needs to watch what he says... his own systems have allowed the CIA easy access to computers... but meh...what do I know.

"We recommend generating an EFI 'whitelist' after purchasing a system or when sure it hasn’t been infected," the Intel Security researchers said in a blog post. "Then check EFI firmware on your system periodically or whenever concerned, such as when a laptop was left unattended."

Even if you download a new EFI from the manufacturer, how the hell do you know it's not already infected? This smacks of more kabuki theater.

I have absolutely no idea how we can ever restore "privacy" to personal computing. Even if you defunded the CIA, their programs would just jump to another agency. Plus the NSA has everything fucking tapped anywa- FUCKKKKKKKKK

I can't let myself think about this stuff too much anymore. It drives me insane.

There are ways, but it's expensive...

[SuburbanFarmer]

I am, but honestly, McAfee needs to watch what he says... his own systems have allowed the CIA easy access to computers... but meh...what do I know.

"We recommend generating an EFI 'whitelist' after purchasing a system or when sure it hasn’t been infected," the Intel Security researchers said in a blog post. "Then check EFI firmware on your system periodically or whenever concerned, such as when a laptop was left unattended."

Even if you download a new EFI from the manufacturer, how the hell do you know it's not already infected? This smacks of more kabuki theater.

I have absolutely no idea how we can ever restore "privacy" to personal computing. Even if you defunded the CIA, their programs would just jump to another agency. Plus the NSA has everything fucking tapped anywa- FUCKKKKKKKKK

I can't let myself think about this stuff too much anymore. It drives me insane.

There are ways, but it's expensive...

Don't even tell me. I don't want to think about how fucked we are, at this point.

[StCapps]

My observations on Trump is,
A. He is either one to five moves ahead of most politicians and the media or
B. He is a master at pivoting after the fact and figures out a way to turn it positive for him.

Or C: he's an idiot and genuinely has no idea what to do now.

Exhibit 101 - The brilliant press again tonight thought they really had Trump cornered on Taxes. Trump makes the press look like stupid fools.


Yeah, it's not C, care to take another Multiple Guess ?

A little from column A,
A little from column B.

[The Conservative]

Even if you download a new EFI from the manufacturer, how the hell do you know it's not already infected? This smacks of more kabuki theater.

I have absolutely no idea how we can ever restore "privacy" to personal computing. Even if you defunded the CIA, their programs would just jump to another agency. Plus the NSA has everything fucking tapped anywa- FUCKKKKKKKKK

I can't let myself think about this stuff too much anymore. It drives me insane.

There are ways, but it's expensive...

Don't even tell me. I don't want to think about how fucked we are, at this point.

Lets put it to you this way, treat it as if you were always being spied on... because you are... and not from the CIA... I have a honeypot before my network, and I also have a custom designed hardware firewall that blocks and alerts me when unknown random entities are attempting to gain access.

I had to put my notifications on silent for a while till a pattern started to form... Russia, France, and parts of the US really, really like me...lets not forget NK and China too.

[SuburbanFarmer]

There are ways, but it's expensive...

Don't even tell me. I don't want to think about how fucked we are, at this point.

Lets put it to you this way, treat it as if you were always being spied on... because you are... and not from the CIA... I have a honeypot before my network, and I also have a custom designed hardware firewall that blocks and alerts me when unknown random entities are attempting to gain access.

I had to put my notifications on silent for a while till a pattern started to form... Russia, France, and parts of the US really, really like me...lets not forget NK and China too.

What a fucking disaster. How did they manage to fuck this up so completely.

[The Conservative]

Don't even tell me. I don't want to think about how fucked we are, at this point.

Lets put it to you this way, treat it as if you were always being spied on... because you are... and not from the CIA... I have a honeypot before my network, and I also have a custom designed hardware firewall that blocks and alerts me when unknown random entities are attempting to gain access.

I had to put my notifications on silent for a while till a pattern started to form... Russia, France, and parts of the US really, really like me...lets not forget NK and China too.

What a fucking disaster. How did they manage to fuck this up so completely.

The answer is really simple. We went from a militaristic viewpoint of how the world treats us to trying to win the hearts and minds of the rest of the world...

We opened our borders, we opened our trade, we opened up, while doing so we didn't keep protecting what was important, which was our infrastructure... because of that, we have opened ourselves to a world of hurt.

A nother simple excuse is the internet is designed wrong as it stands now. It originally was designed to be open and freely give information. Instead we have added security on top of the system instead of actually working it to fix it. That is the purpose of Internet 2.0 is to close those security holes, but we are not getting there fast enough.

The CIA/FBI, etc are playing warfare on a global scale and loosing because we don't have the proper infrastructure to truly defend ourselves. Our goverment may say so, but in reality not even close... we are playing defense when we should be the strongest offensive team on the block, but we aren't because we don't want to hurt people's feelings.

It's as people say a catch-22... if you want to defend this country correctly, we got to break more than a few eggs...

[SuburbanFarmer]

Lets put it to you this way, treat it as if you were always being spied on... because you are... and not from the CIA... I have a honeypot before my network, and I also have a custom designed hardware firewall that blocks and alerts me when unknown random entities are attempting to gain access.

I had to put my notifications on silent for a while till a pattern started to form... Russia, France, and parts of the US really, really like me...lets not forget NK and China too.

What a fucking disaster. How did they manage to fuck this up so completely.

The answer is really simple. We went from a militaristic viewpoint of how the world treats us to trying to win the hearts and minds of the rest of the world...

We opened our borders, we opened our trade, we opened up, while doing so we didn't keep protecting what was important, which was our infrastructure... because of that, we have opened ourselves to a world of hurt.

A nother simple excuse is the internet is designed wrong as it stands now. It originally was designed to be open and freely give information. Instead we have added security on top of the system instead of actually working it to fix it. That is the purpose of Internet 2.0 is to close those security holes, but we are not getting there fast enough.

The CIA/FBI, etc are playing warfare on a global scale and loosing because we don't have the proper infrastructure to truly defend ourselves. Our goverment may say so, but in reality not even close... we are playing defense when we should be the strongest offensive team on the block, but we aren't because we don't want to hurt people's feelings.

It's as people say a catch-22... if you want to defend this country correctly, we got to break more than a few eggs...

What on earth are you talking about?

- What does "opening Trade" have to do with web privacy?
- Please explain how Web 2.0 fixes our security issues, and provides privacy to users. Feel free to get technical.
- What threats do you imagine the CIA/FBI/NSA/DHS can't handle, that any other country could?

[The Conservative]

Open trade demands a level of trust, in the US that means free reign to our market, which also gives access to our infrastructure and other entities that regretfully tie into our network overall. Giving trade access, especially internally. Once they get into the US to do trade, they have bypassed our firewall, and can hack/utilize our weakened infrastructure to send viruses and other hacking tools loose. This is why our infrastructure has been hacked how many times already? Or have been shown to have been hacked by foreign entities? This doesn't happen from the outside of our firewall, this happens because sometime in the past one of our "allies" came into our country and set the seeds for this to happen...

Web 2.0, it isn't perfect, but it allows for greater security by utilizing IPv6, it still has severe limitations because people are designing it be an upgraded version of the original Web, which means free access to all data. This is still going to be a problem overall, but thankfully they have designed this version to be more "upgradeable" if it makes any sense. We can add security to it's base layer as it becomes available. Will it protect us entirely, hell no... but it's a lot better than the original web... which was designed with no real security in mind.

As for the FBI/CIA/NSA/DHD can't handle... they can't comprehend the size of the internet, they could hire 10,000 people each and not even cover 1% of the web for security. 95% of the internet is not searchable by ordinary means, that means the hundreds of thousands of petabytes of data that we see, makes the iceberg that took down the Titanic seem like a kiddy toy.

There is a reason the government and its entities utilize technology to do the work for them. They search for keywords and statements combined to look for possible threats outside of the US attempting to get in.

If the US were serious about keeping everything humming and safe, our computers, our infrastructure, and all those who come in from outside would be void of malware, viruses, and technology that could potentially harm us. Especially those that deal in trade.

We won't, so we are always going to be susceptible to attacks, and they will originate from within because we as a country want to trust too quickly...to win the "hearts and minds" of the world.... and in doing so, we are going to implode. it is just a matter of time, unless we secure the way we do trade, and allow data in and out of this coutry.

There is a reason why China has a "Great Firewall"...