Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

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Post by de officiis » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:32 pm

If the govt. has been investigating the Trump Campaign's relationship with the Russians, they could certainly gain access to communications without "wiretapping" the Trump Tower. It's no secret that the NSA is capable of, and has for some time, tapped into the cables linking phone communications between the US and Europe.

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Post by Martin Hash » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:47 pm

Are these people really saying they don't think anyone has been "spying" on Trump?! It's all just semantic games: "not wire-tapping," "not BHO," "not Trump Tower." What, they think they're going to be able to impeach him because he specificly said Barry did it?
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Post by C-Mag » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:13 pm

Martin Hash wrote:Are these people really saying they don't think anyone has been "spying" on Trump?! It's all just semantic games: "not wire-tapping," "not BHO," "not Trump Tower." What, they think they're going to be able to impeach him because he specificly said Barry did it?

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Re: Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

Post by clubgop » Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:40 am

How quickly these liberals forget.

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Martin Hash wrote:Are these people really saying they don't think anyone has been "spying" on Trump?! It's all just semantic games: "not wire-tapping," "not BHO," "not Trump Tower." What, they think they're going to be able to impeach him because he specificly said Barry did it?
Only the pro-Trump people are saying that ...and believing that Trump's tweets are something else than distractions.

I think it's been quite common knowledge that the FBI has as part of it's role as responsible for counterespionage in the US looking at this. After they came out along other intelligence services that Russia had been active in hacking, that ought to be a no-brainer. Call it "spying" them... just in the way as investigation to Clinton were accused to be totally politically motivated.

But I guess partisan lines trump everything in the US. If they look upon Hillary's emails, they are pro-GOP stooges (to the democrats), if they investigate Russian actions, they are Obama stooges (to the republicans).

Yep, nothing else but partisanship in the discourse reurgitating the party-lines, which usually are just the facts that favour one side against the other (with the "unfavorable" facts being ignored).

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Post by ssu » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:07 am

clubgop wrote:How quickly these liberals forget.

https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/status/8 ... 46977?s=09

Oh that's surely true. Remember, Obama did try the reset and normalize relations that had gone sour during the Bush years after the Russo-Georgian war.

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Post by de officiis » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:22 am

C-Mag wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Are these people really saying they don't think anyone has been "spying" on Trump?! It's all just semantic games: "not wire-tapping," "not BHO," "not Trump Tower." What, they think they're going to be able to impeach him because he specificly said Barry did it?

Bingo.
I don't think commenting on stories in the media is an impeachable offense. At worst, it shows a lack of discipline and the Donald needs to get a handle on that for sure.

These folks in the so-called intelligence community who have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution but who engage in partisan-inspired, unverifiable leaks to the media because they didn't like being dissed by Trump are tying Washington into knots, causing tremendous distrust, dysfunction, and waste of tax dollars. Soon we will see people calling for investigations of the investigations.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:32 am

I'm just calling for them to fold the entire institution.

They've already passed the point of no return as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

Post by Martin Hash » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:26 am

ssu wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:Are these people really saying they don't think anyone has been "spying" on Trump?! It's all just semantic games: "not wire-tapping," "not BHO," "not Trump Tower." What, they think they're going to be able to impeach him because he specificly said Barry did it?
Only the pro-Trump people are saying that ...and believing that Trump's tweets are something else than distractions.

I think it's been quite common knowledge that the FBI has as part of it's role as responsible for counterespionage in the US looking at this. After they came out along other intelligence services that Russia had been active in hacking, that ought to be a no-brainer. Call it "spying" them... just in the way as investigation to Clinton were accused to be totally politically motivated.

But I guess partisan lines trump everything in the US. If they look upon Hillary's emails, they are pro-GOP stooges (to the democrats), if they investigate Russian actions, they are Obama stooges (to the republicans).

Yep, nothing else but partisanship in the discourse reurgitating the party-lines, which usually are just the facts that favour one side against the other (with the "unfavorable" facts being ignored).
I actually don't understand your point? Someone is spying on Trump, he said it's Barry. It's probably not Barry personally doing it, so... What do you want?

p.s. Republicans don't like Trump either, and I'm a Democrat. Where's the partisanship?
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Re: Trump Tower Bugged by BHO?

Post by adwinistrator » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:50 am

ssu wrote:
clubgop wrote:How quickly these liberals forget.

https://twitter.com/FreeBeacon/status/8 ... 46977?s=09

Oh that's surely true. Remember, Obama did try the reset and normalize relations that had gone sour during the Bush years after the Russo-Georgian war.
I can't imagine what could have changed that might have ended the attempted reset? What could that have been, did something in Russia change around 2012?