Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

[clubgop]

Although in the partisan pissing match we got more ammo crashing the liberal narrative.

Obama, a guiding light and hero to the world draws a red line on Syria. Sryia crosses said line, Obama does nothing and emboldened the Russians to protect Assad.

While Trump, like totally hitler, Putin puppet responds quickly and decisively to an attack in opposition to Russian interest.

Yup, go with that.

[DBTrek]

... we're the foregner loving humanitarians and everybody knows it, we don't have to shoot 50 million dollars worth of TLAM's into the dirt to prove our humanitarian bona fides...

The village of Khan Sheikhun is most impressed with your humanitarian credentials.
Oh wait . . .

If I got military envy, it's for the Russians, not this pussified America, this pussified America ain't nothing but a crying shame.

If only we knew which hole those brave Russians fled to as we rained Tomahawks down on that airbase - you could crawl on down and pat their quivering backs.

[Smitty-48]

If only we knew which hole those brave Russians fled too as we rained Tomahawks down on that airbase - you could crawl on down and pat their quivering backs.

Why would they be scared, after you called them up to tell them exactly where those Tomahawks would rain down, ensuring that not a hair on one Rooskies head would even be mussed, pretty sure the ones who is scared, is y'all, scared of getting bitch slapped upside the head by Crazy Ivan in front of your women, before having to eat crow and back down like the Russian's prison bitches that you have so clearly become.

[ssu]

One thing the number of Cruise missiles fired revealed: how effective the US assumed the Russian Air Defences SAM systems might be.

Perhaps at most 10-15 Cruise missiles would make rubble of an airbase (as they aren't so huge). But if "Syria" effectively shoots nearly all them down, it would be a huge embarrasment from Trump. With a high number of (59?) Cruise missiles attacking one single target, that's a lot. And why wouldn't it, because the US wasn't going attack SAM sites and the AD systems in Syria. More the 50 fired, which is more than the opening salvo against ISIS some time ago.

And btw, didn't notice this small event happening earlier last month, but the IAF striking Syria has had it's engagement with Syria/Russian Air defences. Yep, Israel doesn't make a fuss about an encounter with Syria & possibly with Russia. Interesting missile to missile combat:

In a first, Israeli's Arrow 3 anti-ballistic missile system intercepted a surface-to-air missile fired at Israeli Air Force (IAF) jets that had struck targets in southern Syria. The action began overnight at around 2:30 am local time when IAF jets supposedly attacked a weapons shipment intended for Hezbollah. Shortly after, the jets were fired upon by Syrian surface-to-air missiles as they were flying back into Israeli airspace. At least one of the missiles was engaged by an Arrow 3 battery located in northeast Israel. Nobody on the ground was injured in the incident, and although Syrian forces claimed they downed an IAF fighter, Israel says the jets made it back to base without issue.

The missiles were supposedly fired from southern Syria by Assad’s military, and traveled over Jordan towards the Jerusalem area. They were apparently SA-5 (NATO reporting name: Gammon) surface-to-air missiles, which have been in Syrian service for many years. Although dated, these are very large missiles that feature a fairly long-range and high operating altitude. The IDF said the missiles did not pose a threat to Israel or its fighters that were close to or already in Israeli airspace when the Arrow 3 engaged. With all this in mind, it may seem puzzling why the Arrow 3 was used to engage the Syrian SAMs, but there may be one easy explanation

Arrow 3 is a midcourse ballistic missile interceptor system, and was never meant to counter surface-to-air missiles or even aircraft. It was primarily designed to counter ballistic missiles launched form Iran, but it can also be used to counter those launched from Arab states and even work as an anti-satellite weapon. Arrow, now in its third evolutionary configuration, has been developed over 20 plus years. It occupies the "top tier" of Israel's layered missile defense concept, with David's Sling, (and the Patriot to some degree) and finally Iron Dome fulfilling its lower layers. Arrow 3 just became operation in January and this was the first operational use of an Arrow missile.

See here

Ye old SA-5:


The new Arrow 3:

[DBTrek]

Why would they be scared. . .

Why were no Russian,
corpses pulled from air base?
Because they were scared.

[Smitty-48]

One thing the number of Cruise missiles fired revealed: how effective the US assumed the Russian Air Defences SAM systems might be.

But they told the Russians the whole thing was a big phoney baloney dog and pony show beforehand, so the Russians wouldn't bother trying to shoot down missiles which were not actually, and very deliberately not actually, even aimed at them, the Russians ain't gonna blow $50 million worth of missiles shooting at TLAMs which are targeted at the dirt, unlke Pussified America, when Mr. Ivan shoots, he shoots to kill.

[Alexander PhiAlipson]

Why were no Russian,
corpses pulled from the air base?
Because they were scared.

Now it's a haiku!

[Smitty-48]

Why would they be scared. . .

Why were no Russian,
corpses pulled from air base?

Because America is too scared of the Russians to risk mussing a hair on even one of their heads, never mind actually taking a shot at them, because America is a bully, who only picks on countries which can't shoot back, whereas the Russians could nuke you into the stone age, just by accident, so you don't even look at them funny, lest they get itchy trigger fingers.

[ssu]

Why would they be scared. . .

Why were no Russian,
corpses pulled from airfield?
Because they were scared.

Sooo... if the US says it will bomb a place, it's what, being chicken to leave the area for the event?

But they told the Russians the whole thing was a big phoney baloney dog and pony show beforehand, so the Russians wouldn't bother trying to shoot down missiles which were not actually, and very deliberately not actually, even aimed at them, the Russians ain't gonna blow $50 million worth of missiles shooting at TLAMs which are targeted at the dirt, unlke Pussified America, when Mr. Ivan shoots, he shoots to kill.

If there's 59 targets to be engaged simultaneously, that's simply a waste of resources. But if there would have been 2 or 3 going in, that would be a good practice. What would be more humiliating for Trump is he lashes out missiles and they don't get through? I could hardly wait what kind of jokes the TV comedians would do about Trump then. A President failing in even bombing a country.

And shooting so many missiles at one target is a bit of a show from the US that "look, we can really shoot a lot these things at you".

And with missiles: once you have them, they do have a shelf life before the go bad. So if there is a reason, you can use them. And that for example why Russians used to fire Scuds in "counter-insurgency operations" during their war in Afghanistan. Of course one could argue if firing a surface-to-surface missiles at some rural area with dirt poor peasants is worth it, but hey, it was a use for them.

[Smitty-48]

If there's 59 targets to be engaged simultaneously, that's simply a waste of resources. But if there would have been 2 or 3 going in, that would be a good practice. What would be more humiliating for Trump is he lashes out missiles and they don't get through? I could hardly wait what kind of jokes the TV comedians would do about Trump then. A President failing in even bombing a country.

Nah, because the Russians know that this is ultimately just the Americans embarassing themselves, the Russians ain't gonna flinch, if they took a shot at the TLAM, that would look like a flinch, they don't need practice, they know their IADS works, this is like the Americans taking a shot at the Russians, past their ears, because America chickened out, doesn't have the stones, America knows it, and the Russians know it too, so Mr. Ivan is just staring them down, doesn't even blink, takes a sip of his vodka, and then goes right back to gassing people, snorts derisively, turns his back to America and its sad sack phoney war war fronting, and goes to work, shooting to kill, and just not giving a fuck.