THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:31 am

StCapps wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:How many illegals could be caught and sent home if you spent $15 billion on it, or better still how many jobs could be created?
Depends how you spend the $15 billion.
Exactly. A wall which is unlikely to work or more border patrol officers which will.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:31 am

Fixing the bad trade deals made under Clinton is one of the things I like about Trump's positions. I hope he can do it, but it's hard to put toothpaste back in the tube. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.

It'll be interesting to see how he does it.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:32 am

Montegriffo wrote:Exactly. A wall which is unlikely to work or more border patrol officers which will.
Your tax dollars at work....
Both can work together in a synergistic way. It does not have to be one or the other. You act like spending even $1 dollar on a wall is a waste of money, but a wall has it's uses in certain locations, and pretending otherwise is asinine. Building a wall in some locations allows you to reduce border patrols in that area and increase them in other areas, and/or make it easier for border patrol agents patrolling the border along the wall to do their job. Just because other border security measures deserve to be well funded too doesn't mean that a wall shouldn't be part of the border security plan as well, that's just stupid.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Alexander PhiAlipson » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:39 am

Kath wrote:Fixing the bad trade deals made under Clinton is one of the things I like about Trump's positions. I hope he can do it, but it's hard to put toothpaste back in the tube. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.
Your auto-cliché generator is working nicely, Kath!
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:47 am

StCapps wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:Exactly. A wall which is unlikely to work or more border patrol officers which will.
Your tax dollars at work....
Both can work together in a synergistic way. It does not have to be one or the other. You act like spending even $1 dollar on a wall is a waste of money, but a wall has it's uses in certain locations, and pretending otherwise is asinine. Building a wall in some locations allows you to reduce border patrols in that area and increase them in other areas, and/or make it easier for border patrol agents patrolling the border along the wall to do their job. Just because other border security measures deserve to be well funded as well doesn't mean that a wall shouldn't be part of the border security plan as well, that's just stupid.
The campaign promise was for a wall along the full length of the Mexican border, every dollar spent on that is a dollar less to spend on more effective measures. I suspect that if your own tax were to increase to pay for the feelgood effect you would be less enthusiastic. Unless you actually believe Mexico is going to pay for it in which case "stupid" is an appropriate word to bandy about.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:49 am

Montegriffo wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Montegriffo wrote:Exactly. A wall which is unlikely to work or more border patrol officers which will.
Your tax dollars at work....
Both can work together in a synergistic way. It does not have to be one or the other. You act like spending even $1 dollar on a wall is a waste of money, but a wall has it's uses in certain locations, and pretending otherwise is asinine. Building a wall in some locations allows you to reduce border patrols in that area and increase them in other areas, and/or make it easier for border patrol agents patrolling the border along the wall to do their job. Just because other border security measures deserve to be well funded as well doesn't mean that a wall shouldn't be part of the border security plan as well, that's just stupid.
The campaign promise was for a wall along the full length of the Mexican border, every dollar spent on that is a dollar less to spend on more effective measures. I suspect that if your own tax were to increase to pay for the feelgood effect you would be less enthusiastic. Unless you actually believe Mexico is going to pay for it in which case "stupid" is an appropriate word to bandy about.
This is all part of Cappy's master plan to impoverish the US, boosting Canaderp's position in the world. Don't listen to his ideas on tax policy...
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:51 am

Montegriffo wrote:The campaign promise was for a wall along the full length of the Mexican border, every dollar spent on that is a dollar less to spend on more effective measures. I suspect that if your own tax were to increase to pay for the feelgood effect you would be less enthusiastic. Unless you actually believe Mexico is going to pay for it in which case "stupid" is an appropriate word to bandy about.
No it wasn't. The wall never had to span the entire border, Trump specifically said there would be fencing in spots. His campaign promise was to build a wall, not build a wall across the entire length of the southern border with no gaps whatsoever.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:24 pm

You would think border control technology would have advanced considerable since the ming dynasty finished up the great wall, but apparently not.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:25 pm

apeman wrote:You would think border control technology would have advanced considerable since the ming dynasty finished up the great wall, but apparently not.
It has but that doesn't mean that walls are obsolete.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by apeman » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:29 pm

StCapps wrote:
apeman wrote:You would think border control technology would have advanced considerable since the ming dynasty finished up the great wall, but apparently not.
It has but that doesn't mean that walls are obsolete.
1. I am 100% for controlling borders and enforcing the laws on the books
2. I still think we can do better than a physical wall. Maybe a moat with alligators, or at least a giant corn maze.