THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:12 am

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Kath wrote:As soon as he announces how high the wall will be, ladder manufacturer will start sending ladders to Mexico that are 3 feet higher. :lol: And, don't forget shovel makers... they will also continue to sell in Mexico.

It's just another expensive "feelzgood." Note that the people living on the border don't want the wall.

Not Many People On The Border Really Want Donald Trump’s Wall
The union made no mention of it in their endorsement announcement, but Border Patrol agents along the Rio Grande Valley largely view it as waste of time and money that wouldn’t actually solve any of their security problems.
Just because a wall isn't going to keep all illegals out doesn't mean you shouldn't build a wall.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:15 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:Absolutely. Our multi-billion dollar Dragon Repellent program is working perfectly, too.
A border wall will reduce illegal immigration. There are no dragons for dragon repellent to repel. A border wall would be a far more effective use of taxpayers dollars than a dragon repellent program. Your apples to oranges comparison fails miserably.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:17 am

This is what I have been trying to get at. You cannot reason with what has become of the left. This is not a principled or rational ideology at this point. It's more like a social cancer stemming from brain rot. Attempting to reason with them is like trying to reason with an insane person.

The ideal strategy is to expose them to the wider public whenever possible so that all of America can see their degenerate and insane behavior. These ones are already lost. Your fight is for the rest of the people.
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Post by K@th » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:18 am

StCapps wrote: Just because a wall isn't going to keep all illegals out doesn't mean you shouldn't build a wall.
"If it prevents just one person from getting here it will all be worth it.."
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:19 am

Kath wrote:
StCapps wrote: Just because a wall isn't going to keep all illegals out doesn't mean you shouldn't build a wall.
"If it prevents just one person from getting here it will all be worth it.."
It will prevent a lot more than one person from getting in. Stop being disingenuous.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:20 am

TheReal_ND wrote:
Note that the people living on the border don't want the wall.
Excuse me?
How many illegals could be caught and sent home if you spent $15 billion on it, or better still how many jobs could be created?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:21 am

Montegriffo wrote:How many illegals could be caught and sent home if you spent $15 billion on it, or better still how many jobs could be created?
Depends how you spend the $15 billion.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:24 am

StCapps wrote: ]It will prevent a lot more than one person from getting in. Stop being disingenuous.
I'm not feeling the ROI. Ladders and shovels aren't going to be outlawed in Mexico anytime soon. Human traffickers will still have jobs.

I'm all for border control. I always have been. I hate our open door policy.

We could end illegal immigration by making it illegal to hire undocumented workers. We most certainly have SSNs in a database somewhere. Just give employers a way to verify the SSN belongs to the person applying for the job.

Easy peasy. I'll bet such a system would cost a bit less than $20 Billion.

A wall is stupid. Stupid.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Ex-California » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:25 am

The new argument from the opposition is to say that changing our trade deals with Mexico will cause more illegals to come here.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:29 am

Kath wrote:
StCapps wrote: ]It will prevent a lot more than one person from getting in. Stop being disingenuous.
I'm not feeling the ROI. Ladders and shovels aren't going to be outlawed in Mexico anytime soon. Human traffickers will still have jobs.

I'm all for border control. I always have been. I hate our open door policy.

We could end illegal immigration by making it illegal to hire undocumented workers. We most certainly have SSNs in a database somewhere. Just give employers a way to verify the SSN belongs to the person applying for the job.

Easy peasy. I'll bet such a system would cost a bit less than $20 Billion.

A wall is stupid. Stupid.
Why is a wall stupid if it isn't the entire border security plan? You seem to assume that if the wall is built you can't spend money on any other kind of border security. Just because it won't fix the entire problem doesn't mean it won't fix some of the problem. The goal of the wall is not to end human trafficking, it's to reduce it. Why do you think building a wall will be be such a bad ROI? Just because you can get passed a wall with enough resources, effort and luck doesn't mean it has no use.
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