Dark Days Ahead

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Martin Hash
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Re: Dark Days Ahead

Post by Martin Hash » Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:56 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:54 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:42 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 1:14 pm
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ok, man.

If ten thousand people give me a nickel ... and I go exchange those for 10k Canadian nickels and then make purchases, big data will be able to know which American nickel was swapped for which Canadian one at the point of purchase. Why not. I will say though, it seems strange for the government to offer cybersecurity bounties to crack a problem they've already apparently solved. But what do I know.
If there was a pattern of where you (or 10K people) exchanged nickels, tell me why a probability algorithm (AI) couldn’t figure it out?
Because AI has to train on relevant data sets.
The only one who knows which American nickel was exchanged for which Canadian nickel, for which purchase, is me.
Therefore AI has no relevant data to train with.
All it knows are 10k people give me nickels, and I purchase 10k end products.
I, acting as a VPN, offer the shield of anonymity by tumbling everyone's nickels together before making the purchases.
I do this specifically to create the layer of obfuscation that prevent initial order tracking and later reverse lookup.

Now ... if you happen to browse "nickelPorn.com" frequently, and your browser includes tracking data from that site, and every time you give me a nickel I go make a purchase at "nickelPorn.com" - it's not gonna take a genius to see what's going on.
But that's not a vulnerability in VPN. That's a vulnerability in people NOT using VPN for everything, but half-assing security while running a dirty browser. And even then ... they won't track you down through the VPN. They're gonna track you down through the "nickelPon.com" tracking cookies you allowed on your browser. Also the "nickelPorn.com" site will match your browser with you when you visit, regardless of the VPN.

So I'm not saying using a VPN makes you invisible.
But wisely using VPN can make you anonymous.
I buy a new laptop with cash. I VPN through public WiFi on the Brave Browser, using DuckDuckGo, allowing NO cookies, and accessing zero email/social media/online store accounts that can positively identify me - good luck ever figuring out who I am or where I'm at. "Starbucks in Tacoma" - that's about as close as you're gonna get, and then only if you intercept me between Starbucks and the VPN.
You're basically making the argument that if you use a disposable cellphone once then throw it away, you can't be traced. Touche'.
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Re: Dark Days Ahead

Post by DBTrek » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:02 pm

Well, you can use it more than once, but yes. You have to have a machine dedicated to your VPN traffic, and kept separate from all websites that can match your browser with a userID. A "clean" machine if you will.

If you just take your regular ol' PC that logs into your Gmail accounts, forums, Amazon, bank account, etc, then you're vulnerable to tracking through all of those sites - even if the network traffic you used to do so was encrypted and anonymous. You VPN into your bank and the Feds just have to ask the bank when the last time you logged in was. They can't track the VPN traffic back to you, but the bank knows when you logged in, what you did, and where you live - so they don't have to.
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Re: Dark Days Ahead

Post by TheOneX » Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:06 pm

A VPN by itself is only really useful for three things preventing ISPs from tracking your data, preventing websites from tracking location data, and accessing region locked content. A VPN by itself does not serve any other purpose, and must be used in conjunction with other methods in order to provide any reasonable level of protection from Google or the government.

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Re: Dark Days Ahead

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:48 pm

Somethings cooking. Left wing militias lining up at various state capitals. The military is occupying most of DC.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it- ... -buildings
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Re: Dark Days Ahead

Post by Ph64 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:23 pm

TheOneX wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 3:06 pm
A VPN by itself is only really useful for three things preventing ISPs from tracking your data, preventing websites from tracking location data, and accessing region locked content. A VPN by itself does not serve any other purpose, and must be used in conjunction with other methods in order to provide any reasonable level of protection from Google or the government.
I use VPN for torrents mainly. And I haven't done much of that in recent years.
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Re: Dark Days Ahead

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:34 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:48 pm
Somethings cooking. Left wing militias lining up at various state capitals. The military is occupying most of DC.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it- ... -buildings
The test will be if the Boogaloo Boys (Lefties) will be treated like the Proud Boys?
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Re: Dark Days Ahead

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:39 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:34 pm
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:48 pm
Somethings cooking. Left wing militias lining up at various state capitals. The military is occupying most of DC.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it- ... -buildings
The test will be if the Boogaloo Boys (Lefties) will be treated like the Proud Boys?
They will. This is how the establishment will justify the clampdown.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Dark Days Ahead

Post by SilverEagle » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:14 pm

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:48 pm
Somethings cooking. Left wing militias lining up at various state capitals. The military is occupying most of DC.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it- ... -buildings
:lol: :lol: Do those pussies know how to shoot? I hope a bunch of them blow their feet off by accident. I had know idea that group existed. They do know that they support the side that wants to disarm them right?
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Re: Dark Days Ahead

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:42 pm

Watch what the Lefty governments do: see if they let those fuckers slide?
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Re: Dark Days Ahead

Post by TheOneX » Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:19 pm

I'm confused, I was under the impression that Boogaloo was not leftists?