LVH2 wrote:Even if everything you say is true, there are still lots and lots of women who can come forward with true stories of abuse at the hands of "average guys."Speaker to Animals wrote:LVH2 wrote:Many of them won't have to make false allegations. I think many of us know multiple women who have been the victims of some kind of sexual abuse. At least I do. The majority of perpetrators are "average guys."
I know several who have been raped or molested. I know a former air traffic controler who, early on in the process was told she'd have to give a BJ to move ahead. Another who was a dealer with a similar experience. I can safely assume that more of them have not told me about it than have. (actually, I only learned about the 2 workplace ones because I was sitting there when they had the conversation.)
Guys who do stuff like this often do it again and again until they are caught, so one guy might average a lot of victims. To pull a number out of my ass, lets say the mean number is 15. Even if 2% of guys do stuff like this, they are going to get to a lot of women.
Now, "stuff like this" is a wide range of stuff. Groping a co worker and molesting a kid aren't the same thing. There are going to be episodes where a guy is drunk, or just socially clueless, or things are misinterpreted, blah blah blah. Not every guy who does something innapropriate at some point in his life is a "sexual predator."
In many cases, a woman could do the exact same thing and get away with it or it would be perceived very differently, as with exposing themselves, making lewd comments, etc.
I'm not saying there are never false allegations, or that there isn't a danger to going into witch hunt mode. But there are lots and lots of women who can come forward honestly.
I know plenty of men who were sexually assaulted by women. What do you think would happen to one of them if he told his story on Facebook?
Rape and sexual assault are not gendered problems, but gynocentrism guarantees that's exactly how society will treat it. We have seen countless women raping boys in schools over the past few years. The response was snickers and yawns. A few women make baseless allegations in public and we are already in full-blown moral panic mode. Seriously stop and consider that before throwing on your white knight armor and riding forth to save the poor, helpless women.
The rates are equivalent. The difference is that male victims of women face social humiliation for coming forward and the women perps almost never face the consequences. In America, it is men who are punished for their own rape and abuse at the hands of women. Report a sexual assault or rape and the woman is likely to make a counter allegation, and then you go to prison on her word.
Furthermore, what part of the endless stream of rape hoax stories can you not process?
