Habbening Thread

[Montegriffo]

Pro tip:

Spraying down a dissenting opinion with raw sewage is not the optimal method for promoting meaningful discussion.

One might actually consider posting actual counter-arguments rather than childish bullshit.

If you can explain the point of trying to debate with someone who says things like the following and posts distorted videos which are clearly untrue I'd like to hear it. I will debate with anyone prepared to have an honest discussion but if all I get in return is lies and insults they will get kitten pics...

In England this is systemic. England has become a major exporter of radical Islamic terrorism because of the people they have allowed to construct a parallel culture within British borders.

No nation state to put a stop to their terroristic attacks, illegal sharia patrols, harassment and persecution of indigenous English people.

As far as the EDL.. that's your business as an Englishmen. I only call it as I see it. Currently you have a violent parallel culture of Muslim immigrants intent on replacing you and imposing sharia law across Europe. They now enforce sharia law in Muslim no-go areas in parts of London with sharia patrols in which they regularly are filmed beating people, including women, and disparaging the English population. The police do very little to combat this for fear of being labeled racist by your marxist political class. The only people I see actually directly combating these illegal sharia patrols are the EDL and Britain First. So, say whatever you want about them, the point remains. Nobody else seems to confront radical Islam in your nation.

If you want to replace the English people with Muslims, then you ought to present a defense of that policy.

But folks like you have no business waving the flags of the nation's you want overrun with foreign peoples.

Only western nations have these policies of replacing their own people with foreigners. Nonwestern peoples think this is fucking retarded. They might take advantage of it to secure new nations for themselves while it lasts, but once they take over, they plan to turn these nations into versions of their home civilization.

Other way around. The Cross of St. George is the symbol of the English people, and embraced by Englishmen who seek to preserve England from Marxist ruin.

No, this lunacy seems unique to the west for some reason. But folks like you have no business waving the flags of the nation's you want overrun with foreign peoples.

Dude wants to flood England with countless nonwesterners, handing over control of England to foreigners, but don't you dare suggest he makes himself an enemy of the English people!

She should admit she was wrong to invite millions of these violent people into Germany in the first place. It surprises me they have not dragged her out into the street and hung her like the Italians did to Mussolini yet.

[TheReal_ND]

and the rise in far right nationalist parties

That's a reaction to a specific Muslim problem. If you were a doctor your patient would be dead because you treated the symptom, not the cause.

Not really, there has been a strong Front National in France for decades, they used to use the Jews and blacks as their main scapegoat, since 911 they have turned their attention on Muslim immigrants.
It's a terrible vicious cycle.
Marine's father Jean Marie who led the party from 1972 - 2011 regularly used to get 10% of the vote at general elections. Despite their reputation as Socialists the French have always had far right tendencies right back to the Vichy of WWII.

Goes back further than WWII and there is nothing wrong with it. NF actually attempted to assassinate De'Gaul multiple times for letting communists liberate Tunisia.

[Fife]

Pro tip:

Spraying down a dissenting opinion with raw sewage is not the optimal method for promoting meaningful discussion.

One might actually consider posting actual counter-arguments rather than childish bullshit.

If you can explain the point of trying to debate with someone who says things like the following and posts distorted videos which are clearly untrue I'd like to hear it. I will debate with anyone prepared to have an honest discussion but if all I get in return is lies and insults they will get kitten pics...

In England this is systemic. England has become a major exporter of radical Islamic terrorism because of the people they have allowed to construct a parallel culture within British borders.

No nation state to put a stop to their terroristic attacks, illegal sharia patrols, harassment and persecution of indigenous English people.

As far as the EDL.. that's your business as an Englishmen. I only call it as I see it. Currently you have a violent parallel culture of Muslim immigrants intent on replacing you and imposing sharia law across Europe. They now enforce sharia law in Muslim no-go areas in parts of London with sharia patrols in which they regularly are filmed beating people, including women, and disparaging the English population. The police do very little to combat this for fear of being labeled racist by your marxist political class. The only people I see actually directly combating these illegal sharia patrols are the EDL and Britain First. So, say whatever you want about them, the point remains. Nobody else seems to confront radical Islam in your nation.

If you want to replace the English people with Muslims, then you ought to present a defense of that policy.

But folks like you have no business waving the flags of the nation's you want overrun with foreign peoples.

Only western nations have these policies of replacing their own people with foreigners. Nonwestern peoples think this is fucking retarded. They might take advantage of it to secure new nations for themselves while it lasts, but once they take over, they plan to turn these nations into versions of their home civilization.

Other way around. The Cross of St. George is the symbol of the English people, and embraced by Englishmen who seek to preserve England from Marxist ruin.

No, this lunacy seems unique to the west for some reason. But folks like you have no business waving the flags of the nation's you want overrun with foreign peoples.

Dude wants to flood England with countless nonwesterners, handing over control of England to foreigners, but don't you dare suggest he makes himself an enemy of the English people!

She should admit she was wrong to invite millions of these violent people into Germany in the first place. It surprises me they have not dragged her out into the street and hung her like the Italians did to Mussolini yet.

[Montegriffo]

Actually for trying to grant Algeria it's independence. De Gaulle was the leading French patriot during the war and the assassination attempts were after the war. No political party which tries to kill the democratically elected leader of a country can call themselves patriots.

[TheReal_ND]

Actually for trying to grant Algeria it's independence. De Gaul was the leading French patriot during the war and the assassination attempts were after the war. No political party which tries to kill the democratically elected leader of a country can call themselves patriots.

In sorry, yes Algeria. I didn't mean to imply they were trying to assassinate him over anything more than politics. It is a seedy history and while the communists seem to get off Scott free in the history books, anything right of center is excoriated most thouroghly. As someone that is interested in moving the Overton Window I support NF.

[DrYouth]

I award Nukedog the Martin Hash good citizen award.

[Montegriffo]

Also Nuke if you are equating De Gaulle with supporting the communists you are very wide of the mark

Curbing the Communist Resistance

After the celebrations had died down, de Gaulle began conferring with leading Resistance figures who, with the Germans gone, intended to continue as a political and military force, and asked to be given a government building to serve as their headquarters. The Resistance, in which the Communists were competing with other trends for leadership, had developed its own manifesto for social and political change known as the National Council of the Resistance (CNR) Charter, and wanted special status to enter the army under their own flags, ranks and honours. Despite their decisive support in backing him against Giraud, de Gaulle disappointed some of the Resistance leaders by telling them that although their efforts and sacrifices had been recognised, they had no further role to play and, that unless they joined the regular army, they should lay down their arms and return to civilian life.[61]

Believing them to be a dangerous revolutionary force, de Gaulle moved to break up the liberation committees and other militias. Much as he feared, the communists were not only extremely active, but they received a disturbing amount of support from the population. As early as May 1943, the US Secretary of State Cordell Hull had written to Roosevelt urging him to take action to attempt to curb the rise of communism in France

Plus he was nearly toppled from power by the 1968 rebellion which was mostly instigated by the far left.

[Speaker to Animals]

1968 was another year of mass protests by the left. I think you confuse it with the coup in 1958, which was led by nationalists on the right who opposed what he did to Algeria.

[Montegriffo]

You would have liked De Gaulle Nuke, the left hated him.

May 1968
Main article: May 1968 in France
Caricature of Charles de Gaulle during the May 1968 crisis (see Chienlit)

De Gaulle's government was criticized within France, particularly for its heavy-handed style. While the written press and elections were free, and private stations such as Europe 1 were able to broadcast in French from abroad, the state's ORTF had a monopoly on television and radio. This monopoly meant that the government was in a position to directly influence broadcast news. In many respects, Gaullist France was conservative, Catholic, and there were few women in high-level political posts (in May 1968, the government's ministers were 100% male).[163] Many factors contributed to a general weariness of sections of the public, particularly the student youth, which led to the events of May 1968.The mass demonstrations and strikes in France in May 1968 severely challenged De Gaulle's legitimacy. He and other government leaders feared that the country was on the brink of revolution or civil war. On 29 May, De Gaulle disappeared without notifying Prime Minister Pompidou or anyone else in the government, stunning the country. He fled to Baden-Baden, Germany to meet with General Massu, then head of the French military there, to discuss possible army intervention against the protesters. De Gaulle returned to France after being assured of the military's support, in return for which De Gaulle agreed to amnesty for the 1961 coup plotters and OAS members.[164][165]

In a private meeting discussing the students' and workers' demands for direct participation in business and government he coined the phrase "La réforme oui, la chienlit non", which can be politely translated as 'reform yes, masquerade/chaos no.' It was a vernacular scatological pun meaning 'chie-en-lit, no' (crap-in-bed, no). The term is now common parlance in French political commentary, used both critically and ironically referring back to de Gaulle.[166]

But de Gaulle offered to accept some of the reforms the demonstrators sought. He again considered a referendum to support his moves, but on 30 May, Pompidou persuaded him to dissolve parliament (in which the government had all but lost its majority in the March 1967 elections) and hold new elections instead. The June 1968 elections were a major success for the Gaullists and their allies; when shown the spectre of revolution or civil war, the majority of the country rallied to him. His party won 352 of 487 seats,[167] but de Gaulle remained personally unpopular; a survey conducted immediately after the crisis showed that a majority of the country saw him as too old, too self-centered, too authoritarian, too conservative, and too anti-American

[TheReal_ND]

I never assumed otherwise. Honestly the history is interesting and I'm not entirely familiar with it but Le Pen is my girl yep. She makes me like the French again and reminds me of their martial history.