Our Guy Flynn

[Smitty-48]

They most certainly did exterminate entire populations.

That's not the reality of the Roman Empire, the Romans were conquerers, but not exterminators, they absorbed the new into their franchise, the Romans didn't actually kill that many people, more often than not, the Romans were seeking a capitulation without even having to fight, and more often than not, they got one, the Romans having to fight a war of anihiliation, very rare occurence indeed, the Romans conducting mass slaughter, even more rare.

The most violent and ruthless wars in the history of Rome, were actually the civil wars, but that was Roman on Roman.

[Speaker to Animals]

They most certainly did exterminate entire populations.

That's not the reality of the Roman Empire, the Romans were conquerers, but not exterminators, they absorbed the new into their franchise, the Romans didn't actually kill that many people, more often than not, the Romans were seeking a capitulation without even having to fight, and more often than not, they got one, the Romans having to fight a war of anihiliation, very rare occurence indeed, the Romans conducting mass slaughter, even more rare.

I just listed like five fucking examples and you cut them out of the quote to say there are no examples! Get real, man. You are totally wrong here.

[Speaker to Animals]

The Romans did not exterminate entire peoples, what the Romans did, was absorb entire peoples into their empire, the essence of the Roman Empire, is not extermination, but rather integration, the Romans didn't say "kill everybody", what the Romans said was "make everybody Roman"

LOL

They most certainly did exterminate entire populations.

Julius Caesar alone exterminated at least two entire groups of people that I know of: Tencteri and Usipetes.

They exterminated the last of the Phoenicians at Carthage. They literally murdered every last man, woman, and child. Then they disassembled the city brick-by-brick, and salted the fields.

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And that photo of Bibi above reminds me that they murdered almost as many Jews (in real numbers) as the Germans did, in the Roman-Jewish wars. Eventually they killed off as many of the Jews as they could, completely removed the Temple from the face of the Earth, and scattered the survivors to the wind.

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They exterminated the city-state of Corinth from the face of the Earth as well.

[Smitty-48]

I just listed like five fucking examples and you cut them out of the quote to say there are no examples! Get real, man. You are totally wrong here.

The Roman Empire was a slave empire, humans were capital, specific to general fallacies does not an empire of extermination make, extermination was the exception, not the rule, the rule, was integration and absoption into the whole, of the human capital, which was the source of their wealth and power.

[Speaker to Animals]

I just listed like five fucking examples and you cut them out of the quote to say there are no examples! Get real, man. You are totally wrong here.

The Roman Empire was a slave empire, humans were capital, specific to general fallacies does not an empire of extermination make, extermination was the exception, not the rule, the rule, was integration and absoption into the whole, of the human capital, which was the source of their wealth and power.

No, Smitty. They literally exterminated people. Before the Third Punic War, there existed a Carthaginian people. After the Third Punic War, there existed no Carthaginian people or even a city where Carthage once stood.

Before the Roman conquest of Corinth, there existed a Corinthian people. After the Roman conquest of Corinth, there existed no Corinthian people.

Genocide was oft their policy, guy. You are quite wrong here.

[Calculus Man]

I'm pretty sure we could rule Iraq without exterminating any peoples...

[Speaker to Animals]

Archaeologists recently found the site of where Caesar exterminated an entire tribe in what is now the Netherlands:

Dutch archaeologists claim they have proof Roman emperor Julius Caesar spent time in what is now present day the Netherlands, after finding remains of a battle site near Oss in Brabant.

They say they have found the location where Caesar fought against two German tribes in 55 BC and that this is the first battle field in the Netherlands.

Archaeologist Nico Roymans of Amsterdam’s VU University, says this is the first time the presence of Julius Caesar on Dutch soil has been proved. Until now, the site of the battle, which Caesar describes in his account of the Gallic wars, De Bello Gallico, was unknown.

The archaeologists used historical, archaeological and geo-chemical analysis to confirm their discovery after finding a large number of skeletons, swords, spearheads and one helmet over the past 30 years.

Carbon analysis dates the bones to the last century BC and that, combined with weapons, means the find can be dated to the right period, Roymans told television show DWDD.

The two German tribes came from an area east of the Rhine and asked Caesar for refuge. He refused and ordered his troops to massacre them in what academics say would now be labelled genocide.

Roymans will give more details of the find at a news conference on December 11 at the Allard Pierson Museum in Amsterdam.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2 ... therlands/

[Speaker to Animals]

“I sent the cavalry behind to them.
“The Germans heard screams behind him, and when they saw that their wives and children were slain, they threw down their weapons and ran headlong away from the camp.
“When they had come to the point where the Meuse and Rhine rivers flow together, they saw no good in further flights.
“A large number of them were slain, and the rest fell into the river, where they died overwhelmed by anxiety, fatigue and strength of the current.” — Caesar, De Bello Gallico Book 4, 14-15

^^^ First hand account.

[Smitty-48]

I just listed like five fucking examples and you cut them out of the quote to say there are no examples! Get real, man. You are totally wrong here.

The Roman Empire was a slave empire, humans were capital, specific to general fallacies does not an empire of extermination make, extermination was the exception, not the rule, the rule, was integration and absoption into the whole, of the human capital, which was the source of their wealth and power.

No, Smitty. They literally exterminated people. Before the Third Punic War, there existed a Carthaginian people. After the Third Punic War, there existed no Carthaginian people or even a city where Carthage once stood.

Before the Roman conquest of Corinth, there existed a Corinthian people. After the Roman conquest of Corinth, there existed no Corinthian people.

Genocide was oft their policy, guy. You are quite wrong here.

Just to correct you, those wars were not fought by the Roman Empire but rather the Roman Republic, but the fallacy in your assertion of course, is that the Romans did not actually exterminate city states out of existence, rather, they absorbed them out of existence, there were no Carthaginians nor Corinthians, because of course, they all became Romans, but again, both are specific to general fallacies as well, because neither Carthage nor Corinth was the way the Romans operated in general, and in fact, the anihaltion of those citiies marked a radical departure from Roman policy even at the time.

Very rare occurrences in specific contexts being asserted as the general nature of a thing; fallacy.

Also note, Juiius Ceasar refounded Corinth as a Roman City, Colonia Laus Iulia Corinthiensis, which is why there is a still a Corinth there to this day, the ruins that you actually see in Corinth, are the Roman ruins, because the Romans absorbed Corinth into Rome.

[Speaker to Animals]

Oh my God, you are hopeless.

You really can't admit when you are wrong.

I gave you five examples. Documented examples of Romans committing genocide as a matter of state policy. For one of the examples, I provided you with the archaeological evidence of the genocide followed by the first hand account of it by the man who ordered it.

You have nothing to offer. No evidence. I had to take history courses in college too. Roman genocides are not some obscure concept here.