Civil War Doomsday Clock

[Speaker to Animals]

Real fasicism has never been tried.

Nah. I think it important to differentiate the democratic fascists from the national socialists.

[C-Mag]

Zwangswirtschaft

[TheReal_ND]

Why do you cheer for filthy collectivism ? Hate it both all it's cameleon forms, Commie, or Fascist.

Individualism is gay.

[C-Mag]

Zwangswirtschaft means compulsory economy, the economy of the Nazis.
Commie/Socialist sympathizers and collaborators have a phobia for anything Fascist, when in fact they are very close kin.

In the populist propaganda of Bolshevism, under “socialism of the Russian or Lenin pattern the people ostensibly own the state, and the state in turn owns the means of production. While, under the sham capitalism of Nazism and “socialism of the German or Hindenburg pattern,” the people ostensibly own the means of production, but the state in turn owns the people. https://finance.townhall.com/columnists ... f-n2536334

Labor under Fascism was not free market

To ‘protect’ those in work, the German Labour Front was set up. This was lead by Robert Ley. The GLF took the role of trade unions which had been banned. To an extent, the GLF did this. Ley ordered that workers could not be sacked on the spot but he also ordered that a worker could not leave his job without the government’s permission. Only government labour exchanges could arrange for a new job if someone did leave his employment.

However, the GLF increased the number of hours worked from 60 to 72 per week (including overtime) by 1939. Strikes were outlawed. The average factory worker was earning 10 times more than those on dole money and few complained – though to do so was fraught with potential difficulties.
The leisure time of the workers was also taken care of. An organisation called “Kraft durch Freude” (KdF) took care of this. Ley and the KdF worked out that each worker had 3,740 hours per year free for pursuing leisure activities – which the state would provide. The activities provided by the state were carefully and systematically recorded.https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/n ... n-economy/

Running a business under Nazi Fascists

No German capitalist or entrepreneur (shop manager) or any one else is free to spend money on his consumption than the government considers adequate to his rank and position in the service of the nation. The surplus must be deposited with the banks or invested in domestic bonds or in the stock of German corporations wholly controlled by the government.

Hoarding of money or banknotes is strictly forbidden and punished as high treason. Even before the war there were no imports of luxury goods from abroad, and their domestic production has long since been discontinued. Nobody is free to buy more food and clothing than the allotted ration. Rents are frozen; furniture and all other goods are unattainable.

Travel abroad is permitted only on government errands. Until a short time ago a limited amount of foreign exchange was allotted to tourists who wanted to spend a holiday in Switzerland or Italy. The Nazi government was anxious not to arouse the anger of its then Italian friends by preventing its citizens from visiting Italy.

German corporations are not free to distribute their profits to the shareholders.
all private consumption is strictly limited and controlled by the government
https://fee.org/resources/the-economic- ... the-nazis/

Everyone forgets that Nazism evolved out of Bismarcks Social Democratic Government of the late 19th C. This was an evolution. Germany was a Commie/Socialist hotbed before Hitler was even born.

[Speaker to Animals]

The problem is with your equation between collectivism and socialism. These are not synonymous.

Individualism, at bare minimum, is a ridiculously nonexistent notion, and therefore all human society is nothing more than an exercise in how we organize collectivism.

You are not a precious snowflake, living independent of society, unless you literally live in some cabin in the Alaskan wilderness, in which case you wouldn't be posting here, across an Internet designed and built by collectivists at DARPA.

[C-Mag]

The problem is with your equation between collectivism and socialism. These are not synonymous.

Individualism, at bare minimum, is a ridiculously nonexistent notion, and therefore all human society is nothing more than an exercise in how we organize collectivism.

You are not a precious snowflake, living independent of society, unless you literally live in some cabin in the Alaskan wilderness, in which case you wouldn't be posting here, across an Internet designed and built by collectivists at DARPA.

You are bringing up something completely different. What I'm talking about here is roots and mechanisms of Socialism in Nazi Germany. Commies, Marxists and Socialists all want to distance themselves from German Socialism, they gladly ignore the 100 years or so of German Socialism that led to National Socialism. Then they paint the Nazi Fascists as greedy capitalists. Nothing could be farther from the truth. There are only trivial technicalities of difference between Socialism and Fascism.

Ludwig von Mises in Human Action discusses that there is not much difference between fascism and socialism, only “trivial technicality,” as Daniel James Sanchez describes it.

[Speaker to Animals]

Literally, all of western civilization led up to collectivized production of food and goods. The triumphs of our rise in the medieval period to our golden age in the Renaissance were collective in nature.

[Speaker to Animals]

I think where many conservatives and libertarians go wrong is not recognizing that what they call individualism is the primary ideology used by states to gain and maintain control.

The more "individualist" a population, the more fragmented and dependent upon centralized authority.

The more collectivized a society, the less amenable to centralized state control they can be.

That does not mean we cannot see massive states built on collectivism either. Obviously we saw that, but it is collectivism built around sham identities and never holds up more than a few generations.

A truly enduring autocratic state must obliterate society. Atomize the family, then break it apart with divorce and degeneracy. Destroy the community so people have no social net outside the state. Flood communities with foreigners so everybody is isolated and alone rather than unified and together as a community.

You are propagandized to hate collective action because that weakens the clown empire.

[C-Mag]

Literally, all of western civilization led up to collectivized production of food and goods. The triumphs of our rise in the medieval period to our golden age in the Renaissance were collective in nature.

Well, in that case we should all become filthy collectivists.
We can all turn over all our property to the state for redistribution. We can have the government dole out calories, we can submit the use of force to the State. It will be an even better golden age.

[Zlaxer]

Looks like the cold civil war is at risk of going hot - more and more articles like the one below - when the based conservatives and normies realize that they will never win another election and that the lunatic/marxist left will have perpetual power...shit is going to hit the fan.

http://www.market-ticker.org/

You have multiple candidates who have openly said they'll do flatly-unconstitutional things -- like try to grab guns. That one alone could lead to a dirty civil war.

The left's tactics are transparent; use "ballot harvesting" (an outright fraud; one person, one vote means you must actually be able to prove there was only one, which means showing up at the polls), votes from illegal invaders who have no eligibility and "decisions" from judges outside their actual jurisdiction to leave millions of illegal invaders in the nation who have utterly no right to be here under any circumstances make clear the intent of the left.

Frankly, I still think Trump loses -- to one of the nuts.

That's a problem.

Put in place a political paradigm that makes clear that conservatives will never win another national election majority through various forms of demographic and vote-rigging and you're asking for trouble. Really big trouble.

Biden or Hair God needs to win....a progressive POTUS and/or congressional landslide will land us in a shooting war in less than 10 yrs....